[Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

Thu Sep 30 02:55:09 UTC 2010

On Sep 29, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 29 September 2010 22:37, Aude <aude.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Regret I was really not involved much in the trial or polls (mostly
>> been on wiki break for the past ~9 months) but quite concerned now
>> given Risker's concerns about the software being buggy and other  
>> issues.
>>
>> And seeing people that I have lots of respect for in hot debate (both
>> sides) concerns me... seems tricky to find the right balance and
>> solution for moving forward.
>>
>> [maybe setting rights to bureaucrats or some higher level for now?
>> Allowing only more narrow testing maybe in non-article space or
>> something? Until we can decide what/how/when to move forward with  
>> next
>> trial...just throwing ideas out]
>>
>> Anyway, I would like to be more informed and try testing in some test
>> space (is there a test wiki for this?) and some summary of the key
>> issues that I can see?
>>
>>
> The test wiki is here:  http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
> (MZMcBride seems to be the most responsive local bureaucrat, if you  
> want to
> have admin permissions there.)
>
> The current list of bugzillas being worked on is here (cribbed from  
> RobLa's
> post)
>
> We're currently tracking the list of items we intend to complete in
> Bugzilla. You can see the latest list here:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25293
>
> Many of the items in the list are things we're looking for feedback  
> on:
> Bug 25295 - "Improve reviewer experience when multiple simultaneous
> users review Pending Changes"
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25295
>
> Bug 25296 - "History style cleanup - investigate possible fixes and
> detail the fixes"
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25296
>
> Bug 25298 - "Figure out what (if any) new Pending Changes links there
> should be in the side bar"
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25298
>
> Bug 25299 - "Make pending revision status clearer when viewing page"
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25299
>
> Bug 25300 - "Better names for special pages in Pending Changes
> configuration"
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25300
>
> Bug 25301 - "Firm up the list of minor UI improvements for the
> November 2010 Pending Changes release"
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25301
>
> Also cribbed from RobLa's message:
> Ongoing use of Pending Changes is contingent upon consensus after the
> deployment of an interim release of Pending Changes in November 2010,
> which is currently under development. The roadmap for this deployment
> is described here:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial/Roadmap
>
>
> On looking at the bugzillas, I note that many of the more serious  
> issues
> identified in the Roadmap are not addressed. I will leave it to  
> RobLa to
> explain that rationale.

Thanks. Will look tomorrow.

Don't know if I can be much help (I tend to stay far away from hot  
potatoes like this) but maybe someone w/ fresh eyes (me and others?)  
can look at the situation and help suggest ways to alleviate concerns  
that are agreeable to people on both sides of the debate and help move  
things forward.

Just don't like seeing good folks split like this.

@aude

>
> Risker/Anne
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