[Foundation-l] A proposal of partnership between Wikimedia Foundation and Internet Archive

Sat Aug 28 07:48:44 UTC 2010

Gordon @ IA was most friendly and helpful.  archive-it is a
subscription service for focused collections of sites; he had a
different idea better suited to our work.

Gordon writes:
> Now, given the importance of Wikipedia and editorial significant of things
> it outlinks-to, perhaps we could set up something specially focused on its
> content (and the de facto stream of newly-occurring outlinks), that would
> require no conscious effort by editors but greatly increase the odds that
> anything linked from Wikipedia would (a few months down the line) also be
> in our Archive. Is there (or could there be) a feed of all outlinks that IA
> could crawl almost nonstop?

That sounds excellent to me, if possible (and I think close to what
emijrp had in mind!)  What would it take to produce such a feed?

SJ

PS - An aside: IA's policies include taking down any links on request,
so this would not be a foolproof archive, but a 99% one.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've asked Gordon Mohr @ IA about how to work with archive-it.  I will
> cc: this thread on any response.
>
> SJ
>
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:56 PM, George Herbert
> <george.herbert at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here's the Archive's on-demand service:
>>>
>>> http://archive-it.org
>>>
>>> That would be the most reliable way to set up the partnership emijrp
>>> proposes.  And it's certainly a good idea.  Figuring out how to make
>>> it work for almost all editors and make it spam-proof may be
>>> interesting.
>>>
>>> SJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Ray Saintonge <saintonge at telus.net> wrote:
>>>> David Gerard wrote:
>>>>> On 24 August 2010 14:57, emijrp <emijrp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to make a proposal about external links preservation. Many times,
>>>>>> when you check an external link or a link reference, the website is dead or
>>>>>> offline. This websites are important, because they are the sources for the
>>>>>> facts showed in the articles. Internet Archive searches for interesting
>>>>>> websites to save in their hard disks, so, we can send them our external
>>>>>> links sql tables (all projects and languages of course). They improve their
>>>>>> database and we always have a copy of the sources text to check when needed.
>>>>>> I think that this can be a cool partnership.
>>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Are people who clean up dead links taking the time to check Internet
>>>> Archive to se if the page in question is there?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ec
>>>>
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>> I actually proposed some form of Wikimedia / IArchive link
>> collaboration some years ago to a friend who worked there at the time;
>> however, they left shortly afterwards.
>>
>> I like SJ's particular idea.  Who has current contacts with Brewster
>> Kahle or someone else over there?
>>
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