[Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

Wed Aug 11 14:35:44 UTC 2010

What some people from the are afraid of is not entering Israel; but the consequences of them entering Israel (eg being barred entry to Dubai as a result of prior travel to Israel).

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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:26:09 +0300
> From: moushirah at gmail.com
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011
> 
> Abbas: Let us not generalize; it is a complex and complicated matter
> about the will/ability to visit Israel if you happen to be a resident
> of an Arab or Muslim nation.
> 
> I believe the "difficulty" of getting a visa varies from one country
> to another, but even with the help of the bidding team, an issue will
> remain unresolved, that is: Some countries do not allow persons with
> an Israeli stamp on their passports, to enter their borders. The list
> includes: Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, UAE, Turkey ..and other
> destinations. I am not sure if there are exceptions for this rule in
> those countries. It is a complicated situation on political and
> ethical levels.
> Maybe it remains a personal choice of the participant whether to make
> it Haifa or not.
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/11/10, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Not only the Middle East, but the Muslim population at large will not dare
> > step into Israeli soil.
> >
> >> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 13:06:45 +0100
> >> From: thomas.dalton at gmail.com
> >> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011
> >>
> >> On 11 August 2010 12:37, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > DISCLAIMER: this is a delicate issue that could easily generate a flame.
> >> > So
> >> > please everybody presume the good faith and stay on topic :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I don't really know if this issue as been discussed in earlier threads
> >> > (I
> >> > subscribed to this list after Gdansk and the only pertinent thing I
> >> > found is
> >> > here:
> >> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Haifa/Q%26A#Participants),
> >> > but I would like to know if there are updates about the possibility for
> >> > Middle East citizens to have permissions to enter Israel for Wikimania
> >> > 2011.
> >> > I guess this type of permission is not easy to obtain (I'm thinking for
> >> > example about citizens of Syria, West Bank or Iran) and I also remember
> >> > a
> >> > discussion in Gdansk (with Jan Bart, just after the World Cup Final :-(
> >> > )
> >> > about some initiatives we could support to increase participation. Are
> >> > there
> >> > any news or updates? Could I find some information somewhere?
> >> > Thank you in advance.
> >>
> >> I spoke to quite a few people on the Israeli bid team and at the
> >> Foundation about Wikimania 2011 while in Gdansk and I know trying to
> >> get visas for as many people as possible, particularly from the
> >> neighbouring Arabic countries, is very high up on everybody's
> >> priorities. I don't know what is being done to achieve that, but the
> >> issue certainly isn't being ignored.
> >>
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