[Foundation-l] 10 thoughts on how to improve the quality of Swedish Wikipedia?

effe iets anders effeietsanders at gmail.com
Wed Mar 12 13:49:12 UTC 2008


Actually, a lot of Wikipediae have followed svwiki's example, and had
bot-created articles. Most of them longer then one line, but they are all
automated, and do not contain a lot of creativity...

Eia

2008/3/12, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod op mccme.ru>:
>
> > On 12/03/2008, Lennart Guldbrandsson <wikihannibal op gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>  ===Thought number one: delete the bad articles===
> >>  I want to begin with a controversial proposal. It was controversial on
> >> dewp
> >>  and the result there is still not totally clear, but I think that it
> >> may be
> >>  good to start with a jolt.
> >>  The proposal is to '''remove all bad articles'''. Bad articles come in
> >> many
> >>  forms: stubs and substubs, articles with low real content (e.g.
> peacock
> >> and
> >>  weasel terms), articles without proper language, articles that are
> >>  confusing, lists that can never be completed, etc, etc. By deleting
> >> them we
> >>  won't have a [[:Category:Wikipedia maintenance|maintenance page]]
> >> that's
> >>  always full of things to do and has become a constant guilty
> >> conscience,
> >>  rather than a project which some time will be more or less fulfilled.
> >>  How would this be done? Well, the active users in a particular topic,
> >> for
> >>  example a [[:Wikipedia:WikiProject|project]] or a
> >>  [[:Wikipedia:Portal|portal]] (in other words: people who are
> >> interested),
> >>  regularly go through "their" categories and weed out the worst
> articles
> >> -
> >>  ''of course, they should enhance the articles they can". Enhancements
> >> are
> >>  naturally better, but in many instances it would take such a long time
> >> that
> >>  it's better to simply remove the articles.
> >>  '''Summary:''' This deletion proposal would lead to svwp downsizing
> the
> >>  article count. We could even go below 250,000 articles. But think of
> it
> >> like
> >>  this: what kind of press release we could issue! "Wikipedia takes out
> >> all
> >>  garbage."
> >
> >
> > This approach has already led to severe public relations problems for
> > en:wp, including a writeup in The Economist.
> >
> > It also implies the live, working wiki is a finished polished product,
> > which kills working on it. en:wp has 2 million articles, but there's
> > at least 20 million topics that would be covered but aren't yet if you
> > just include all towns and state-level politicians.
> >
> >
> > - d.
> >
> >
>
> Actually, Swedish Wikipedia is notoriously known for a huge number of
> one-line articles. In Russian Wikipedia, where I am mostly active, it is
> customary to justify the deletion discussion of very short articles by
> saying "We are not Swedish Wikipedia". The problem there is much more
> severe than in de.wp and en.wp. Especially once you realize they are in
> the top ten ONLY because of these articles.
>
> Cheers,
> Yaroslav
>
>
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