[Foundation-l] Baidupedia copyvio collections

Sat Jun 14 09:06:07 UTC 2008

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> Datum: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:54:41 -0400
> Von: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com>
> An: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Foundation-l] Baidupedia copyvio collections

> 1) What Baidupedia is doing is wrong.

Ack

> 2) Because of the Great Firewall, taking down Baidupedia is a net  negative for us.

That I don't agree. Fact is, we don't have the power to take it down, and we don't care if it is down or not. If Baidu is down or not doesn't have an influence on us. Baidu is not a mirror of Wikipedia. We have had contact with other agencies in China to build up a mirror (the foundation was informed about these contacts), but because of the issue of the GFW the contacts all run dead. We don't consider Baidu as a collaboration, we also don't consider them as a potential collaborator.

> 3) We want to find a way to bring Baidupedia into compliance with the GFDL.

That would be fine. But that would not happen. Baidu uses a very muddy copyright policy porpusely, this was confirmed from inofficial channel.

> 4) We also potentially want to use some of Baidupedia's content for ourselves too.

No, never. Because every content on Baidu is potentially copyviod, contents from Baidu on Wikipedia is a kill-argument. Whenever I see that the content originate from Baidu it is for me a kill creteria.

> 5) Because Baidupedia is a collaborative site instead of a static  
> site, it faces different operational and legal implications than other  
> cases.

Maybe in the future once a day. But now they don't see any neccesity to change their policy. To device a way to let them see the neccesity is maybe a method we should search for.

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