[Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [Wikimediameta-l] Wikimedia mouvement

Mon Jun 9 14:10:13 UTC 2008

per request


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From: Herby <herbythyme at fmail.co.uk>
Date: Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Wikimediameta-l] [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mouvement
To: foundation-l-owner at lists.wikimedia.org


My posting bounced to the foundation one - for completeness of the
thread it possible should be sent
Thanks
Herby
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:53:18 +0100, "Herby" <herbythyme at fmail.co.uk>
said:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:36:03 +0200, "Guillaume Paumier"
> <guillom.pom at gmail.com> said:
> > Hello,
> >
> > [CCing to wikimediameta-l]
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Given that I was the one who originally suggested that it would be a
> > > good idea to open wmf editing thanks to flaggued revisions, I am not
> > > going to say it is a bad idea.
> > >
> > > However, considering wmf site as the official hosting of information
> > > regarding all of our organization would be a huge mistake.
> > >
> > > WMF needs to control its editorial content as it is a corporate website.
> >
> > I concur ; wikimediafoundation.org is the website of the Foundation,
> > and that's all.
> >
> > > Could this be hosted on meta ?
> > >
> > > Yes, certainly. At least for a while.
> > > But again, the role of that new site would be different from the role of
> > > meta and this might enter in conflict, in particular with regards to the
> > > main page.
> >
> > In my opinion, meta-wiki already is the wiki of the wikimedia movement
> > / community / <insert your preferred word here> ; it's the wiki where
> > people from various Wikimedia communities, chapters, and foundation
> > all gather.
> >
> > Wikimedia projets tend to have two main pages : one main page for
> > content (e.g. [[Main Page]]) and one main page for the community (e.g.
> > [[Project:Community portal]]). We could use this system on meta to
> > have two landing pages, one for PR and one for internal stuff (just
> > like on other Wikimedia projects).
> >
> > I agree that meta tends to be a mess and it should be cleaned up. It's
> > not a new idea (see
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:MetaProject_to_Overhaul_Meta ) but
> > the project was abandoned. Some months ago I was thinking about
> > creating a new namespace (say Historical:) to archive all the old
> > stuff and clean up the wiki a bit.
> >
> > In a word, we shouldn't open a brand new community wiki just because
> > we're too lazy to clean up the one we've already got for years.
> >
> > --
> > Guillaume Paumier
> > [[m:User:guillom]]
> > "Scribitur ad narrandum, non ad probandum." Quintilian
> >
>
> I certainly agree with much of what Guillaume says here.
>
> The idea of the new namespace (& I agree Historical:) would be very good
> indeed.  Most new people to Meta find rather strange pages which they
> tag for deletion only to be told that they are "historical" - I may have
> been one of them :).
>
> A problem with Meta is that quite a few people find it, some edit a bit
> but few stay & work there.  I know we all have limited time and have to
> decide where we can best/most rewardingly allocate it however Meta
> really could do with less visitors & more workers.  I do not see how
> creating what appears to be a new meta (in the true sense of the word)
> site is going to help.  Those who deal with meta aspects will then move
> or whatever & Meta as a whole could be tagged as "historical"?
>
> If I can I would certainly help with a clear up of Meta - most of my
> time there has been devoted to the blacklist & we now finally have
> rather more people committed to that than in the past.  It would be good
> if this topic continued to be posted to the Meta list as well as
> foundation for the benefit of those of us who are not currently
> subscribers to foundation.
>
> Thanks
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>   herbythyme at fmail.co.uk
>
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