[Foundation-l] Chinese Wikipedia unblocked in Mainland China

Christiano Moreschi moreschiwikiman at hotmail.co.uk
Thu Jul 3 22:19:09 UTC 2008


Oh, don't be silly. This is the flaming mailing list. NPOV doesn't apply here. We can all mouth off about the PRC as much as we like, so long as it's reasonably on-topic. Discussion is never NPOV, nor should it be.

CM


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> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:06:57 +0200
> From: poeloq at gmail.com
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Chinese Wikipedia unblocked in Mainland China
> 
> Hey,
> 
>  let's keep this discussion NPOV Wikipedia-style - especially when talking
> about a country that is being potrayed in the media as the sleeping evil
> giant on the one hand and the next world superpower (and hope) by the
> others.
> 
> It is correct, that many things in the People's Republic of China may not be
> dealt with in the same way as the West / the free world, but let's not start
> repeating obvious propaganda messages and statements of the other extreme.
> 
> In regards to the subject at hand, I'm not sure what the reason for
> unblocking is and the Olympics are not necessarily the reason for
> _everything_ happening in the PR at the moment. I know my fair bit on the
> GWC topic and I am fairly certain that blocking is cheaper and more
> effective than unblocking, disregardless of if they are tracking who is
> looking at what, when, why and how.
> 
> Ian
> [[User:Poeloq]]
> 
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Dan Rosenthal  wrote:
> 
>> Probably cheaper too. You gotta pay all the spooks monitoring people (and
>> the snatch and grab teams kidnapping them, and the interrogators etc.). All
>> that money could be used for more important things (like bribes, and lining
>> corrupt officials pockets).
>>
>> -dan
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Ian A. Holton  wrote:
>>>> Ting, confirmation of the unblock? I can confirm this. I have a server
>> in
>>>> Beijing which had access, my friends in Beijing have access and I can
>>> also
>>>> confirm that access to Wikipedia, both English and Chinese, was
>> unblocked
>>> in
>>>> Huludao (Liaoning Province) as of today.
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Perhaps it's just become considered better to allow access then track
>>> who reads what.  :-/
>>>
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