[Foundation-l] Note regarding status of privacy policy

Sat Aug 9 23:09:39 UTC 2008

If you cannot share the trust that en wp has placed in its checkusers  
via a duly elected arbcom you can either vote against that body at  
election time or contribute elsewhere. But on en wp mistrusting entire  
groups is a no no per WP:AGF.

Btw this is not a foundation l issue and I'm scared to say I agree  
with both of gerardm's posts.

Dan
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On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:29 PM, SlimVirgin <slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Thomas Dalton  
> <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There is a body that is full of other checkusers, who instantly take
>>> the side of their colleague, so there really is no point in
>>> complaining to it. What we need is a truly independent body run by  
>>> the
>>> Foundation, answering only to the Foundation and not to people's
>>> mates.
>>
>> It's normal for appeals to go to people with the same powers as the
>> person that made the original decision, it doesn't really work
>> otherwise. When you think a judge has made a mistake you appeal to a
>> higher court where the matter will be considered by other judges.
>> ArbCom is a group of checkusers, whereas the original decision was
>> made by a single checkuser, that's why the appeal is worthwhile. It's
>> much easier for one person to make a mistake than for a majority of a
>> group to make that mistake.
>
> Self-policing works where people have integrity and are willing to
> criticize their friends. In reality, it's too much to ask of many
> people, and there's no need to ask it. It would be a simple matter for
> the Foundation to find a couple of mature, truly independent-minded
> volunteers (who couldn't care a stuff about being liked by the other
> checkusers) to act as a checkuser oversight panel. The very existence
> of such a panel would instantly reduce checkuser misuse.
>
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