[Foundation-l] Board-announcement: Board Restructuring

Tue Apr 29 06:59:19 UTC 2008

Hoi,
There is a fairly famous Dutch quote saying "Read, it does not say what it
says". You come to the conclusion that the board is not interested in the
research into the establishment of a "volunteer council". I fail to read the
same thing. What I read is that the board gives ample room and encourages
the projects to set up its own governance.

I would find it encouraging if the original group proposing a "volunteer
council" just started to make a difference. This difference would be in
actually starting to organise project level organisation and procedures. You
are the group best suited for this because you already exist. The
composition of the group is such that it does reflect a large part of our
projects. Getting a similar group of people to where you currently are is
difficult.

Please get this act together and move forward !!
Thanks,
      GerardM

On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>
wrote:

> I was on the group.
>
> We did not even start the discussions.
>
> The only thing we had was the resolution proposed by Lodewijk. It was
> published, both here and on meta. I am sure you read it.
>
> The expectation was we could be a group researching a possibility to
> establish the VC, and, in case we would conclude the VC should be
> established, come up with some recommendations how it could function and
> draft some initial policy on VC.
>
> Of course we would be prepared to present the results of the research in
> public. Even more, there have been suggestions on this list (not supported
> by me) that we debate actually in public.
>
> The board has made it explicit it is not interested in this research.
>
> So far, this has been the end of the story.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
>
> > Geoffrey Plourde wrote:
> >> All the Board had to do is endorse the Provisional Council, which was
> in
> >> essence a working group.
> >> My only issue with chapter seats is that we have no real way to fill
> >> them.
> >
> >
> > I would infact be curious to know if that was really the case.
> >
> > While I agree with Lodewijk that it would be useful for
> > individual board members to be open about thier individual
> > views on the matter, equally I have to ask Lodewijk, EC and
> > company, if they would be prepared to present to the public
> > what the proposal they offered to the board (and was not
> > acted upon directly by them) was like?
> >
> > So far we have had an interpretation by Jimbo about the
> > restructuring (an interpretation that does not clearly
> > express what his preference was within the internal
> > discussions, if any). And we have had an interpretation
> > by Mike Snow, somewhat circumspectly expressed, of both
> > the demurral of direct Board involvement with setting up
> > the council, and the restructuring of the board, again
> > with fairly light amount of personal views revealed.
> >
> > Antheres opinions have revealed that some of the
> > discussion was somewhat vexing, but even she hasn't
> > really given specifics, leaving us to try and read
> > between the lines what her own views might have been
> > like, though promising to speak more on the matter
> > later, and clearly encouraging the others on the
> > board to give their side of the matter.
> >
> > And while the people who were on the private group to
> > explore the setting up of the council have demanded
> > public explanations, they haven't themselves gone first
> > and revealed what they presented to the board, or how
> > their proposal was prepared, what conflicting views
> > were balanced and how.
> >
> > Somehow the situation reminds me of a poker game with
> > both players asking the other guy to show their cards
> > first.
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> >
> >
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