[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council - proposal sent to the Board

Tue Apr 1 02:23:09 UTC 2008

We were asked "What is your primary project?". I am not representing
sr.wp community, too.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com> wrote:
> My objection was not to her being a representative of the commons or
>  wikibooks community; however she was put forth as an en.wikipedia
>  representative, and for that I absolutely object.
>
>  -Dan
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Andrew Whitworth wrote:
>
>  > She's also been doing some excellent, drama-free work on Wikibooks. I
>  > wouldn't judge a Wikimedian's worth by the way the Wikipedia community
>  > feels towards them, since I've always found Wikipedia to be a little
>  > bit dramatic and irrational. Of course as an outsider, I'm sure I only
>  > ever hear the bad news.
>  >
>  > --Andrew Whitworth
>  >
>  > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Geoffrey Plourde
>  > <geo.plrd at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  >> look at her work on commons. It seems fairly exemplary.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> ----- Original Message ----
>  >> From: Dan Rosenthal <swatjester at gmail.com>
>  >> To: effeietsanders at gmail.com; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>  >> >
>  >> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:17:43 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council -
>  >> proposal sent to the Board
>  >>
>  >> I have serious concerns with Durova being considered as a
>  >> representative of the en.wikipedia community. Perhaps you missed the
>  >> massive drama over the past months that resulted in her losing her
>  >> administrator status. I do not feel that anyone who has so recently
>  >> felt one of the most significant backlashes the community has ever
>  >> given as a unified body, should be selected to speak for that
>  >> community. That's not just a slap in the face; it's a kick in the
>  >> balls at the same time.
>  >>
>  >> -Dan
>  >> On Mar 31, 2008, at 7:46 PM, effe iets anders wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> Dear all,
>  >>>
>  >>> I am very glad that the proposal for establishing a provisional
>  >>> volunteer council received such a lot support both on this list as
>  >>> in
>  >>> private conversations.
>  >>>
>  >>> Since the request for candidates for the Provisional Volunteer
>  >>> Council, I received quite some nominations. However, unfortunately I
>  >>> have to admit that there were no (willing) candidates from some
>  >>> important regions amongst these. As I have to work with the
>  >>> candidates
>  >>> that were nominated, I was therefore unable to candidate someone
>  >>> from
>  >>> these regions.
>  >>>
>  >>> I did try however, to get at least a few projects represented, and
>  >>> also a more technical person (from the developers side of the
>  >>> volunteer spectrum). Please find my final suggestion list below in
>  >>> the
>  >>> proposal (attached again for reference - only one minor spelling and
>  >>> layout changes).
>  >>>
>  >>> Please note that this is a *proposed* resolution, and not yet
>  >>> accepted.
>  >>>
>  >>> I know this list is not very long. And some area's are still missing
>  >>> in representation. However, I trust this group wholehearely, and
>  >>> suppose that they will make sure as a first thing to get at least
>  >>> one
>  >>> or more projects better represented (such as Wikinews or Wikiversity
>  >>> which have a very different character).
>  >>>
>  >>> If you have major concerns with respect to this list of candidates,
>  >>> please send them to this list or communicate them to the Board (I am
>  >>> not sure which route is the best for that though). I will make no
>  >>> changes any more myself, but the Board is of course able to
>  >>> determine
>  >>> the list as it likes.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> With kind regards,
>  >>>
>  >>> Lodewijk Gelauff
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>  >>>
>  >>> Whereas the Board,
>  >>>
>  >>> * recognizes the value of volunteers in Wikimedia projects and that
>  >>> their work is the very reason of their success,
>  >>> * values the volunteers' opinions and takes them into serious
>  >>> consideration when discussing issues involving the volunteers,
>  >>> * is of the opinion that these volunteers should have a strong say
>  >>> in
>  >>> changes in the articles of incorporation and the bylaws of the
>  >>> Wikimedia Foundation,
>  >>> * considers a Volunteer Council a valuable intermediary between
>  >>> volunteers and the Foundation, and as a good instrument to hear the
>  >>> voice of the volunteers:
>  >>>
>  >>> it is hereby resolved that:
>  >>>
>  >>> 1. The Board of Trustees hereby creates a Volunteer Council, to
>  >>> serve
>  >>> as a valuable complement to the Staff, Advisory Board and Board of
>  >>> Trustees.
>  >>> 2. Without restricting the generality of this provision the purposes
>  >>> of the Volunteer Council shall include:
>  >>>
>  >>> 1) Offering advice and support on issues relevant to the Wikimedia
>  >>> Volunteers,
>  >>> 2) Recommanding the opening or closure of Wikimedia projects,
>  >>> 3) Approving changes to the articles of incorporation or bylaws of
>  >>> the Wikimedia Foundation and
>  >>> 4) Assist in establishing a clear separation between the legal
>  >>> responsibilities of the Wikimedia Foundation as an Internet Service
>  >>> Provider and the community decisions for the Wikimedia Projects.
>  >>>
>  >>> 3. The members from the Volunteer Council must be volunteers within
>  >>> Wikimedia.
>  >>> 4. The Provisional Volunteer Council shall report to the Board no
>  >>> later than September 1, 2008, which report shall include
>  >>> recommendations regarding the number and composition of the
>  >>> Volunteer
>  >>> Council, and how the members of the Council shall be chosen. Said
>  >>> report shall also include recommendations regarding the distribution
>  >>> of rights and responsibilities between the Board and Council, and
>  >>> any
>  >>> changes in the by-laws that may be necessary to implement this.
>  >>> 5. Except where it pertains to its own procedures, no decision of
>  >>> the
>  >>> Provisional Volunteer Council shall bind any person.
>  >>> 6. On receipt of the said report the Board shall take such steps
>  >>> as it
>  >>> deems necessary to confirm and empower the Volunteer Council, and
>  >>> provide for a transition of operations from the Provisional
>  >>> Volunteer
>  >>> Council.
>  >>> 7. Members of the Volunteer Council will not be financially
>  >>> compensated for their activity. On approval by the Board of Trustees
>  >>> expenses of the Provisional Volunteer Council and Volunteer
>  >>> Council in
>  >>> the fulfillment of their duties may be reimbursed.
>  >>> 8. The following people are hereby appointed as member of the
>  >>> Provisional Volunteer Council:
>  >>>
>  >>> Michael Bimmler, Mbimmler (Main project: de.wikipedia)
>  >>> Yaroslav Blanter, Yaroslav Blanter (Main project: ru.wikipedia)
>  >>> Lise Broer, Durova (Main projects: en.wikipedia and
>  >>> commons.wikimedia )
>  >>> Jesse Plamondon-Willard, Pathoschild (Main projects: en.wikisource
>  >>> and meta.wikimedia )
>  >>> Sydney Poore, FloNight (Main project: en.wikipedia)
>  >>> Milos Rancic, Millosh (Main project: sr.wikipedia)
>  >>> Ray Saintonge, Eclecticology (Main project: en.wikisource,
>  >>> en.wikipedia)
>  >>> Andrew Whitworth, Whiteknight (Main project: en.wikibooks)
>  >>> Michal Zlatkovsky, Timichal (Main project: cs.wikipedia)
>  >>>
>  >>> 9. The members of the Provisional Volunteer Council may on a 2/3
>  >>> vote
>  >>> of all its members add such additional members as they may deem
>  >>> necessary and useful to their deliberations.
>  >>>
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