[Foundation-l] Let's switch to CC-BY-SA

Tue Sep 11 16:25:56 UTC 2007

2007/9/11, geni <geniice at gmail.com>:
> On 11/09/2007, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:
> > As just to show how impractical - there are 14 requirements for
> > modified versions, of those 14:
> > * A is broken by Wikipedia (no different title is given)
> > * B is broken (author of the new version and authors of the previous
> > version are not given on what should reasonably be considered the
> > title page)
>
> I would dissagree.

In what respect? What warped interpretation of "the text near the most
prominent appearance of the work's title, preceding the beginning of
the body of the text" do you use so that the previous authors (or at
least 5 major ones) as well as the new author are mentioned there?

> > * C is broken (wikipedia is mentioned on the 'title page', but not
> > being a formal entity can't be the publisher, that is, I guess, the
> > WMF)
>
> No WMF is a service provider. Publisher is the author.

Still not mentioned.

> > * D is trivially adhered to (there are no copyright notices on
> > Wikipedia pages, so they are indeed kept)
> > * E is broken (the copyright notice as required by the GFDL is not shown)
>
> See that notice at the end of the article

That's a copyright notice? It doesn't say who holds the copyright, for
one thing. And if it is, then we don't "add" the copyright notice, but
replace it. Still not good.

> > * F is broken only in a trivial way (the permission is shown, but not
> > after the copyright notices, since they aren't shown)
>
>
> > * G is trivially kept (there are no invariant sections and cover
> > texts, so they are kept as far as they exist)
> > * H is possibly adhered to (the issue is whether having a link is
> > sufficient to consider the GFDL is 'included')
> > * I is broken (our history does not include the title or the publisher
> > of the modified version)
>
> Publisher is the author. Title is the version title.

Author is given as author, not as publisher. Version title is not stated.

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