[Foundation-l] Reboot on LGBT/Egypt issue (was Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2008 will happen in Alexandria, Egypt)

Sun Oct 14 13:37:01 UTC 2007

physical contact between men is a usual thing in Egypt whether Egyptians or
foreigners as long as you AVOID any sexual behavior of any kind in PUBLIC .
as long as this is done nobody will object or might even notice.
and for those who know enough about Western culture are mostly well educated
and know enough to accept the situation and deal with it in a civilized way
.

On 10/14/07, Daniel Mayer <maveric149 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Before I get flammed on this point, I'm fully aware that Arabs and
> Egyptians are different ethnic
> groups. However, what I've heard about the below behavior was specific to
> Arabs and may not fully
> translate to Egyptians. What I want is a better understanding of this
> issue specific to Egypt so
> that LGBT visitors to Wikimania 2008 will be properly informed and will be
> able to act in a way
> that will minimize the possibility of encountering objectionable
> situations.
>
> -- mav
>
> --- Daniel Mayer <maveric149 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > --- MeMo <moamen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > as renting a hotel room with you partner or holding his hand is no
> problem
> > > at all simply because those acts are common in Egypt ..
> > > men do hold each others hand and friends do rent rooms together
> without
> > > being considered gay or harassing them in any mean .
> >
> > I've heard about the how American businessman are often shocked by being
> kissed by and being
> > pressured to hold hands with full grown Arab men business contacts while
> traveling in the Mid
> > East
> > (all done w/o any sexual context or intent as far as the Arab man is
> concerned). There is also a
> > different sense of personal space, with conversations often occurring at
> what would be very
> > uncomfortably close range for American men.
> >
> > That said, the interactions I've heard about are either between locals
> or a local and a
> > foreigner.
> > Would the same behavior between two foreigners go unnoticed in the
> street? I'm inclined to think
> > that many Egyptians know enough about western culture to spot that as
> something more than
> > friendly
> > behavior.
> >
> > -- mav
> >
> >
> >
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