[Foundation-l] Fair Use (again)

Mon Jan 29 21:28:02 UTC 2007

On 1/29/07, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/29/07, The Cunctator <cunctator at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My attitude is that Wikipedia should be pushing the copyright envelope
> > (within reason, of course) on all fronts.
> >
>
> And how much money do you plan to provide to make this possible?

One meeeellion dollars.

> All non-governmental content from the past century is covered by copyright
> > (essentially).
> >
>
> That simply isn't the case.

Please elaborate.

> > We should also be demonstrating the importance of challenging the absurd
> > life and strength of copyright laws by taking advantage of fair use when
> we
> > can.
>
> Your reasons do not support your actions here.

Huh? What actions, where?

> Google is a great example of a company that by dint of its popularity gets
> > to run roughshod over copyright restrictions that companies would squash
> if
> > they weren't so reliant on Google.
>
> Evidences?

http://images.google.com/

> In any case the "no one will sue us" is not a valid argument for
> wikipedia if only because sooner or latter someone will and it doesn't
> help reusers.

Who made that argument?

> Similarly Wikipedia is now in the position of being one of the 800-pound
> > gorillas.
>
> Annual turnover less than that of my nearest collage. I think not.

Collage?

> Wikipedia has the power to shape law because of its size and influence.
>
> How? Political campaigning is pretty much out. We have neither the
> money nor the impact. People go to wikipedia looking for information.
> They are not looking for an ideology

You severely underestimate Wikipedia's impact. Any website that is in the
top 20 of the world has a political impact.