[Foundation-l] Board meeting in Rotterdam later this week

Sun Jan 14 11:38:26 UTC 2007

May be they cant' be so much thing in other country... but they can be in 
italy. I don't know if u know well or not the basics rules of procedural 
penal "civil law" system. In genral... if an italian people upload some 
images (like the one that u have take for the example) on commons, and that 
images must have an authorization, is not important if the commons servers 
are in florida or in italy or in another country, the italian people is 
under the italian penal law. Idem if an american people upload that images 
on commons and an italian people use this images.... U can't upload somthing 
with "PD" or CC-by (for example), on commons if not in all states u can use 
that materials. Commons, for that reason, had deleted all images that was 
tagged with "PD-Italy"... than... wich is the difference ?

For other thing... i qoute Snowdog, if u want a free wikipedia, REALLY 
free... ok  u have to abandon the fair use, and we will abandon all not free 
images.

"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your 
eye,' and behold, the log is in your own eye?" Matthew 7:4

Senpai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Saintonge" <saintonge a telus.net>
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Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Board meeting in Rotterdam later this week

> senpai wrote:
>
>>It's the only way to have some images in the italian articles. We have a 
>>lot
>>of restrictive legislations and we can't use the fair use. For example, we
>>can go in a museum and take some pictures of a painting but, we can't
>>publish into wikipedia without the permission of the "sovraintendenza ai
>>beni culturali"; some days ago the "sovraintendenza ai beni culturali" of
>>florance have threated us for the photos of some painting and ohter kind 
>>of
>>arts taked into the florence's museums; perhaps will be a problem also for
>>commons.
>>
> I would suggest that you investigate the "sovraintendenza ai beni
> culturali"'s right to do this.  If I, as a foreign tourist, chose to go
> to the museum, take pictures of old masters' works, and upload them into
> commons when I got home, I don't think there's much they can do about it.
>
> Ec
>
>
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