[Foundation-l] Alternative to paypal

Thu Aug 16 11:16:09 UTC 2007

Hoi,
How about suggesting to Google to pay the same amount of money on a certain
day or something for the money we receive through Google Checkout ? They can
deduct it either as a charitable donation or as money spend on marketing.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 8/16/07, Debbie Garside <debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am coming into this discussion rather late and am, as usual, reading
> emails backwards :-) Apologies if my comments have already been covered.
>
> Perhaps it would be an option to allow a number of different ways to
> donate.
> For instance IF Google truly is free (financially - I take on board your
> other comments on "free" and agree completely) there could be a note on
> the
> donor page saying " Please use the payment option that best suits you as a
> donor.  If Google payments are used there is no financial cost to WMF" and
> "If Paypal is used there is a financial cost to WMF of £?/% per
> transaction."
>
> Personally, I have a Paypal account and would find it too onerous a task
> to
> setup a Google account - especially if I could not use it with Amazon.
>
> Best
>
> Debbie
>
> > -----Original Message-----lyl
> > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf
> > Of Delphine Ménard
> > Sent: 16 August 2007 11:36
> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Alternative to paypal
> >
> > On 8/16/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In 2007 using the financial collection system of Google is free.
> > > Period
> >
> > What I really appreciate in your mailing list particiaptions,
> > Gerard, is the way you do take other people's posts into
> > consideration.
> >
> > > The money collected in this way in 2007 through Google will
> > not cost
> > > us money. Google has indicated in the past that they are
> > happy to help
> > > the Wikimedia Foundation, this gives us the opportunity to ask for
> > > 2008 if they can do something about the cost of the money
> > given to the
> > > WMF through Google Checkout. It isa really good marketing tool for
> > > Google to get the attention of the general public for their payment
> > > system; the trick is to get people to use it in the first place.
> >
> > Right. Go back to my previous post and let me interpret
> > Brad's remark a little more broadly.
> >
> > Costs are not *always* financial. Tell you what, I just
> > checked out Google checkout. I am French, I live in Germany.
> > ie. I want my interface in French, with German banking
> > possibilities and please Terms of Service in a language I
> > understand for a country I live in.
> > Tough luck, none of that available. So much for Google
> > checkout for me. And you know what? It doesn't seem to work
> > with Amazon, which is the only online store I actually visit.
> > So Why should I bother initiating my Google checkout account
> > when I won't ever use it and I already have a paypal one?
> >
> > I find it to be a very narrow approach to focus on the fact
> > that Google checkout costs "us" (ie. Wikimedia) nothing.
> > Again, re-read my post. Collecting money might have financial
> > costs, but we need to be well aware of the cultural and
> > practical costs. What if Google checkout costs us nothing but
> > donations go down by 50% because nobody wants to use it?
> >
> > I am not saying that we shouldn't try, I am saying that we
> > should be very aware of the *real* costs behind one or the
> > other solution. It's not you and I giving the money, or if it
> > is, we represent a very very small percentage of the
> > donations. *We* can adapt to the "best"
> > solution for Wikimedia. Can/will everyone?
> >
> > What you call a "trick" I call lack of concern for the people
> > who allow our projects to exist further. We should adapt to
> > them, not them to us, even if it's good to mention where
> > their donation will have the strongest impact.
> >
> >
> > Delphine
> > --
> > ~notafish
> >
> > La critique, art aisé, se doit d'être constructive. -- Boris
> > Vian in *Chroniques du menteur*
> >
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> > sent to this address will probably get lost.
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