[Foundation-l] New project - wikicracy

Fri Aug 10 11:47:36 UTC 2007

When Jimmy was talking something about politics.wikia, I was thinking
that it was a platform for something like this idea. And I was
disappointed when I realized that it is just a one more Wikipedia fork
one more specific field (political parties).

I think that this is a good idea (of course, not for WM) if it has
connections with a "real world". MediaWiki (wiki in general, but
MediaWiki especially) is a good platform for articulating political
thoughts of communities (from small to huge; I am sure that with some
software improvements countries/states with around 20 millions of
inhabitants may work together on one MediaWiki).

So, my suggestions are:

- Buy domain wikicracy.org (or something which you like); it is
something like $10/year; try with godaddy.com, for example.
- Ask Wikia (http://www.wikia.com/) for hosting.
- Build a theoretical model.
- Find real communities (for example, some municipalities) which are
willing to switch to MW in their decision-making process.

When you make some initial steps (everything is quite easy except to
find some communities, so, let's say, when you have active contacts
with at leas one community which is willing to switch to MW) -- I am
willing to join you and to help. (I have a lot of ideas related to
this issue.)

On 8/10/07, Gary Kirk <gary.kirk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ahem...
> mediawiki.org/wiki/Download
> :)
>
> On 8/10/07, Gary Kirk <gary.kirk at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My thoughts exactly. You are welcome to download and use MediaWiki,
> > the software Wikipedia uses, and run your website using it, however.
> > See mediawiki.org/wil/Download
> > Regards,
> >
> > On 8/10/07, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I propose today to adapt wiki software (a few add-ons could do it) to
> > > create
> > > > a special wiki with the following main characteristics :
> > > > - Allow to build cooperative propositions
> > > > - Allow to vote on the propositions democratically
> > >
> > > I'm not sure those two characteristics work well together. Democracy
> > > can only decide between a finite number of discrete choices. A
> > > co-operative proposition building process is likely to end up with a
> > > large number of propositions without definite borders between them.
> > > Wikis are good for building consensus, not for managing a democracy.
> > >
> > > That aside, the main problem is that you don't say what you intend
> > > this site to make decisions about. It sounds like your are just
> > > proposing an online debating society, which really isn't something the
> > > Wikimedia Foundation would have anything to do with. By all means
> > > create your own site along those lines, but it will never be a
> > > Wikimedia project.
> > >
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> > Gary Kirk
> >
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