[Foundation-l] Israel article (was: Quran in Sitenotice)

Mon Jul 17 07:26:48 UTC 2006

There is a general consesus at the Urdu wiki  to remove the Qur'anic verse from the
Sitenotice. Nobody opposed it. Some Steward should do it now, 
because the admin we contacted and who could
do it has gone Inactive and refuesd to do it himself.
This was the part of the last message by him:

"I think Quranic verses from site notice should be removed.
 since it is a disputed issue im not going to remove it myself."

--heema

----- Original Message ----
From: Sean Whitton <sean at silentflame.com>
To: Heema Khan <heema_khan at yahoo.com>; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:56:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Israel article (was: Quran in Sitenotice)

Okay, perhaps we should just wait for this discussion to pan out, to
see what comes of it before we do anything else. This would seem
sensible to prevent any kind of conflict or unwelcome pressure.

On 14/07/06, Heema Khan <heema_khan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can definitely do that. If you provide me the exact text.
> But it seems that a steward already contacted an administrator yesterday
>
> http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%DB%81#MediaWiki:Sitenotice
>
> There is a new discussion, where it is a
> general agreement to remove the Qur'anic verse
> from the Sitenotice but to display it on the main
> page in any case. There is still an argument going on
> in favour and against this new proposition.
>
> --heema
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Sean Whitton <sean at silentflame.com>
> To: Heema Khan <heema_khan at yahoo.com>; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:13:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Israel article (was: Quran in Sitenotice)
>
> So, are we okay to post one of those notices? Heema, are you willing
> to translate and post both? I think we need to at least open
> discussion on the wiki as we're just repeating ourselves here on the
> list, it seems.
>
> On 13/07/06, Heema Khan <heema_khan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: geni <geniice at gmail.com>
> > To: andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk; Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l at wikimedia.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:20:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Israel article (was: Quran in Sitenotice)
> >
> > >No one sane?
> >
> > >It has been edited by:
> > >http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%B1
> >
> > >One of the buracrats on that wikipedia.
> >
> > this guy argued that if you are against Qur'anic verses in the Sitenotice
> >  means you are against Qur'an.
> >
> > >It was created by:
> > >http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%81_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%84%DB%81
> >
> > >The admin we have contected over the sitenotice issue.
> >
> > Doesn't surprise me, because he added the Quranic verse into the Sitenotice
> > in the first place.
> >
> > --heema
> >
> > On 7/13/06, Andrew Gray <shimgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > (I apologise this won't show up in threading - I've only just
> > > subscribed and I'm reading old mesages through the archives)
> > >
> > > Heema Khan:
> > >
> > > > On Urdu Wikipedia, article on Israel is very short:
> > > > http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%DB%8C%D9%84
> > > > I can translate it:
> > > > "Israel, a palce where jews live. In addition to Pakistan there are many other
> > > > countries that do not recognize this place of Jews as a country.
> > > > Majority of the Urdu speaking public believes that there
> > > > is no country by the name of Israel exists. But there is
> > > > a country named Palestine, whose some part is captured
> > > > by Jews and they call it Israel. And the English speaking
> > > > world says that in a country called Israel some
> > > > Palestenians want to create a country called Palestine."
> > > >
> > > > This is the whole article. Quite extraordinary, nothing to add more.
> > >
> > > In this specific case, if my reading of the page is right, this
> > > article has had a grand total of 21 edits, the ten most recent of them
> > > in a single three-day period in June. Every single bit of the content
> > > has been contributed by one single registered user; all anon edits
> > > have been vandalism (well, one was pageblanking, that might count as
> > > justified!) No discussion page, of course.
> > >
> > > On the whole, while it's still a pretty terrible article, it scares me
> > > less once I know that it's the work of one guy and it's just that
> > > no-one sane has managed to look at it yet...
> > >
> >
> >
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