copyright violation workshop at wikimania (was Re: [Foundation-l] Commons copyright violotion and OTRS)

Fri Jul 22 10:34:02 UTC 2005

Just for everyone : I am preparing the workshop on copyright  
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Le 21 juil. 05 à 22:10, Yann Forget a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> Le Wednesday 20 July 2005 21:06, Gerard Meijssen a écrit :
>
>> Robert Scott Horning wrote:
>>
>>> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> On OTRS I received a complaint that some photo's were taken from a
>>>> website. As the photo's were located on Commons, I informed the
>>>> gentleman to go to the Commons administrators. In this case they  
>>>> were
>>>> world war II photo's of machine guns. I told the gentleman that  
>>>> even
>>>> if the photos were taken from his website, it would not matter when
>>>> the photos are already in the pubic domain.
>>>>
>>>> The question, as it is not possible for a Dutch admin to remove
>>>> photos from Commons and as it has no impact to remove the pictures
>>>> from an article, is it correct to refer this gentleman to the  
>>>> Commons
>>>> admins or is there / should there be a procedure for these issues.
>>>>
>>>
>>> On Commons, if you think there is a copyright tag you can throw on
>>> images you think are in dispute, which is the {{Copyvio}} tag,  
>>> and any
>>> user can add that onto the image.  You don't need to be an admin.
>>> Please make sure you put in a reason on the image page when you  
>>> think
>>> there is a problem, or try and contact the user who uploaded the
>>> content (to be kind to a potential new user who thought uploading
>>> random stuff from web pages was appropriate).  The tag will get
>>> flagged to a category which the admins on Commons check very
>>> regularly, and will delete if it is against Commons policy.
>>>
>>
>> Hoi,
>> In this case Commons states that it is public domain. There is  
>> this user
>> who has just another WW II website and is the opinion that we  
>> copied his
>> website. I am not completely aware of how these things are done on
>> Commons and, I do not agree with some of the procedures that I do  
>> know.
>> The thing is with OTRS, I am not just some user. By notifying me  
>> of this
>> issue the gentleman may think he is talking to the WMF itself  
>> while in
>> fact it has nothing to do with the nl.wikipedia. So the issue is  
>> also a
>> bit bigger than just this and that is why I ask for some guidance.
>>
>
> I think the solution is quite easy.
> Ask this person who is the photgrapher of this picture and when this
> photographer died if he knows it. If he doesn't know who is the  
> photographer,
> I would think that he doesn't own the copyright of the picture. It  
> doesn't
> mean that the picture is in the public domain, but at least he  
> can't give you
> any trouble.
>
> That's what I did with a German organisation who claims copyright  
> of Gandhi's
> photos I uploaded in Commons. I doubt very much this organisation  
> owns any
> copyright on these pictures and I am still waiting for its answer,  
> two months
> after my mail.
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>     GerardM
>>
>
> Regards,
> Yann
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