[Foundation-l] "Fair Use does not apply to DSM material or any other APA/APPI content." um, wtf?

Tue Dec 20 13:55:16 UTC 2005

Below is from [[:en:WP:ANI]]. What on earth? How does "fair use"
magically not apply?

- d.

DSM-IV-TR Copyright question

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Narcissistic_personality_disorder
There is a question being raised concerning whether the reproduction
of DSM-IV-TR criteria on several articles without permission from the
APA constitutes breach of copyright and whether the administration of
Wikipedia could or should seek the relevant permissions or the removal
of such text? Personally I should like to request the permissions be
sought --82.195.137.125 19:04, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

    I have responded to this at the relevant talk page, and suggested
that relevant quotations are within the bounds of fair use. Other eyes
may be welcome on that issue. Dragons flight 21:20, 17 December 2005
(UTC)

        [Response re: DSM-IV-TR criteria (all identifiers removed,
original forwarded to permissions at wikipedia.org):

            We are inclined to deny Wikipedia permission to use our
content as we do not allow anyone to alter our material and we do not
want our material posted online. I can assure you that we have
complete rights to our material and Fair Use does not apply to DSM
material or any other APA/APPI content.

        I find this a LITTLE bit scary in it's wider implications
--82.195.137.125 05:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)]

            Also completely wrong. Of course it fucking applies.
Perhaps they could work with the National Gallery on this one - David
Gerard 12:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

                [Better idea David could you see your way to making
your case to them (I have already made mine)? Here is contact page
http://appi.org/permissions.cfx and post any results here? (repeating
on your talk page). "Inclined" is, to my mind, a word that is still
open to negotiation --82.195.137.125 13:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)]