[Foundation-l] Re: Wikijunior - Wikispecies, Mk 2?

Tue Oct 26 07:17:49 UTC 2004

Of course we need money - but this was a specific grant for a project
which, like Wikispecies, was not previously on the agenda, and if it
had been discussed at all, had received negative responses. It's not a
small thing, and would resemble a significant fork. So, considering
this - and considering what Wikinews is currently going through - and
Wikiversity will soon have to - in the aftermath of the Wikispecies
fiasco, I'm a little bemused that this is being given the same
treatment as was so controversial with Wikispecies.

If Wikimedia is going to be applying for grants, it'd be nice to see,
as happened with the NEH grant, discussions over whether we actually
want to go for said grant, and if we are prepared to meet the
conditions that that would entail. In that case, it was decided -
largely by the community - that the proposal wouldn't go ahead - and
that one didn't involve a considerable fork of the project.

-- ambi

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:58:41 +0200, Anthere <anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would like to perhaps make a comment on it, which I hope you will not
> find rude.
> 
> One of the mission of the board is to find money. This money is not
> meant to party, it is meant to make the project work and proceed.
> 
> One of the way we can do this is by going for grants.
> 
> As such, some dedicated users who care for the project and want it to go
> forward (in this case Danny, who is NOT a member of the board) are using
> their free time and energy to ask for grants.
> 
> Some foundation offered us money to us, for a project that many editors
> found great. So, we accepted.
> 
> Danny wrote a proposal here : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikijunior
> And invited people to register. And several people already gave their
> support. As far as I can see, no one opposed. I do not even see your
> opposition.
> 
> You are most welcome to discuss the issue over there.
> 
> Rebecca a écrit:
> 
> 
> > The minutes of the last board meeting suggested that money was being
> > accepted to found a Wikijunior project. Now, while I can understand
> > that it wasn't entirely initiated by the board, being approached by an
> > outside foundation at all, it seems that once again, it's been decided
> > at a board-level, and there's going to be no discussion in the
> > community as to whether we actually should have a Wikijunior project
> > at all. If I remember correctly, this has been discussed many times
> > before - and has not generally received a good response. Yet now I
> > hear that it's going ahead anyway.
> >
> > I just hope that this isn't going to be a repeat of the Wikispecies
> > saga. If we are going to fork the project,  it is not that hard to
> > throw together a proposal, ala Wikinews - or at least publicly discuss
> > the darn thing first.
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikijunior
> 
> > -- ambi
> 
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