[Commons-l] Dream a little...

Sun Oct 15 21:12:12 UTC 2006

For every award winning photo that a photographer takes, there are hundreds  
of other photos of that exact event, the minutes leading up to the event, and  
the minutes immediately after the event. A photographer will shoot a roll of  
film, and the remaining photos, deemed "not quite so good," are put away 
forever  in what photo houses and newspapers call the "morgue." These are the  
"second-best" images, and the images that did not quite make the light of day  
because, although they were good, they were not quite good enough.

Perhaps, instead of getting Corbis's best shots, we should try to liberate  
the second-best ones--the ones in the morgue that aren't quite as famous but  
could serve our ends as well. 

Danny

In a message dated 10/15/2006 3:48:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
wgfinley at dynascope.com writes:

Go to  apimages.com and you will see a few hundred images we can't   
produce.  They are timeless and unique just like the two photos  I  
worked with them to get permissions on -- Raising the Flag on  Iwo  
Jima and Trang Bang.

Same thing with CORBIS, go to their  website, type in a name and start  
watching all the photos that come  up.  Could we get some of these as  
press publicity  photos?  Probably, asserting fair use.  How about  
having  an agreement in place with CORBIS about our use of them so  
there is  never a question about the legitimacy of the use of an image?

We should  never stop looking for the free sources of images that we  
can  obtain.  But there are a whole slew of historical photographs   
owned by these media houses we do not have access to and that's what   
I was getting at.  I know, because I've deleted them before.   The  
press is everywhere and over decades has acquired scores of  important  
images, I'd like to use them, LEGALLY while protecting the  rights of  
their creators.  A big pile of money would help us do  that.

--Guy

On Oct 15, 2006, at 1:41 PM, geni  wrote:

> On 10/15/06, W. Guy Finley <wgfinley at dynascope.com>  wrote:
>> Ahhh, i'm remembering why I'm on hiatus.  Dream a  little........so
>> someone can come and piss on  it.
>>
>
> If you don't identify problems you can't  improve things. What do AP
> have that we don't and have no reasonable  way of getting?
>
> Photos of newsworthy events where there was no  US miltitry presence.
> Now aside from AP and  simular who has  these photos?
>
> Buying up big photo archives has some attactions  but it is likely we
> would waste a lot of money on stuff we could have  produced anyway.
>
>
>
> -- 
> geni
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