Is this list for only Wikipedia?
Any way, I annouce to those interessed (possibly only Minh) that I have contacted Laurent
Bouvier (
http://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Th%C3%A0nh_vi%C3%AAn:Laurent_Bouvier), who
transfered the whole dictionary of Hồ Ngọc Đức
(
http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~duc/Dict/index.html) into Wiktionnaire (french
Wiktionary) (apparently Hồ Ngọc Đức agreed to release his dictionary in GFDL, by an email
conversation to the guys at Wiktionnaire), and we are going to do the same thing to
Wiktionary.
If you want to help out, join the discussion at
http://vi.wiktionary.org/wiki/Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1%BA%ADn_Th%C3%A0nh_vi%C3%AA…
especially Minh, who is more experienced than me with Wiktionary, to answer the tough
questions of Bouvier.
Thank you for reading this,
Trung
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 23:37:16 -0700
From: mxn(a)zoomtown.com
To: wikivi-l(a)mail.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikivi-l] [Fwd: Template HTML fixups coming this week]
Tôi không biết chúng ta có tiêu bản nào có thể bị ảnh hưởng của thay đổi
này hay không, nhưng nếu bạn gặp tiêu bản nào mà chỉ được sử dụng để bắt
đầu hay kết thúc bảng dùng cú pháp HTML, xin tạm đổi nó thành cú pháp
wiki tại [[Trợ giúp:Tạo bảng]].
I don't know if we have any templates that would be affected by this
change, but if you happen to encounter any templates that open tables
using the HTML syntax but don't close them (or vice-versa), please
convert them to the wiki syntax at [[Trợ giúp:Tạo bảng]] for now.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Template HTML fixups coming this week
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:48:26 -0700
From: Brion Vibber <brion-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org>
Reply-To: Wikimedia developers
<wikitech-l-AeOJrEpdGNeGglJvpFV4uA(a)public.gmane.org>
CC: English Wikipedia
<wikien-l-g2DCOkC13y2GglJvpFV4uA(a)public.gmane.org>rg>, Wikimedia developers
<wikitech-l-AeOJrEpdGNeGglJvpFV4uA(a)public.gmane.org>
Newsgroups:
gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical,gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english
Just a heads-up, folks:
Later this week I'm going to be installing a fix for some longstanding
bugs with
HTML in wiki pages. One of the issues is a difference in rendering of
templates
that improperly nest HTML tags, which caused certain badly-written
templates to
render in one way on Wikipedia but wildly broken on most other wikis.
(Don't forget that an important part of what Wikipedia & its sister
projects are
about is making information sharable and reusable. If the code breaks when
copied to another site, that's Bad.)
Once the fix is in, templates should render about the same on Wikipedia and
other wikis where the "HTML Tidy" plugin isn't being used. The bad news
is that
some of these templates will be broken; so it would be great if we can
make sure
they get cleaned up.
Problem templates are mostly those which start an HTML tag in one
template, then
finish it in another. For instance if {{table-header}} contains a
<table>, and
then the table rows and final </table> are in another template entirely.
These
have always broken on regular MediaWiki -- the template is required to
close its
own tags -- though they sometimes appeared to work on Wikipedia due to
bugs with
our HTML handling when Tidy is enabled.
I've done some automated checks on templates on
en.wikipedia.org to make
a list
of likely problem candidates:
http://leuksman.com/misc/templates/html-table-start.txt
http://leuksman.com/misc/templates/html-table-end.txt
http://leuksman.com/misc/templates/html-table-row.txt
If you've got a template that you're not sure if it will work, try
copying it to
my test wiki at
http://test.leuksman.com/ . This has the fix installed
with the
corrected behavior, so you can see about how it will render on Wikipedia
next week.
Please make sure this information is disseminated to the various other
language
and project wikis people are working on; I don't want to hear "waah! all my
templates broke and no one told me!" next week. :)
For the moment the same kind of construct with wiki tables ({| ... |}) will
still work, but note that some time in the future we're going to have to
look at
'fixing' that too. (This might require some enhancements to how
templates work
to make it easier to fill in long tables.)
-- brion vibber (brion @
pobox.com)
--
Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com>
AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog:
http://mxn.f2o.org/
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