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Brian

27 Nov 2005 27 Nov '05

8:11 p.m.

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias. brian0918

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Matthew R. Howard, Sr.

27 Nov 27 Nov

11:04 p.m.

Brian wrote:

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias. brian0918 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

That does sound like a good idea. Do the smaller wikis have something similar to the #en.wikipedia irc channel that streams RC data? if so, I should be able to mod cool_cat's bot (possibly just run 1 bot per wiki) and use a single channel for the smaller wikis. My only issue with doing that would be, would the channel scroll so fast that no one would be able to keep track...? Maybe something like a trouble-ticket like system, fed by the irc bot, that users may 'take the case' of specic vandalisms, and then 'close the case' when they're done. That too, would entail a lot of extra work to get done on the part of the RC Patroler. If you have any specific ideas of how you think this could be implemented, let me know, I'm off work for the next 2 days, I should be able to bash something out ;] Vilerage (on irc and en.wikipedia ;])

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Brion Vibber

28 Nov 28 Nov

3:26 a.m.

Matthew R. Howard, Sr. wrote:

Brian wrote:

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias.

That does sound like a good idea. Do the smaller wikis have something similar to the #en.wikipedia irc channel that streams RC data?

All of our wikis do.

if so, I should be able to mod cool_cat's bot (possibly just run 1 bot per wiki) and use a single channel for the smaller wikis.

Could do. Alternatively it's probably possible to adjust our RC bots to have some send a second stream (but I'm not sure offhand how to do this, Tim can you comment?)

My only issue with doing that would be, would the channel scroll so fast that no one would be able to keep track...?

In general it would hardly ever move. By definition they have low traffic. ;) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Mark Williamson

7:36 a.m.

I'm not sure it's nessecary. As both Angela and I have already noted in this thread, there is already a group dedicated to monitoring small Wikis for spam and vandalism. Mark On 27/11/05, Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com> wrote:

Matthew R. Howard, Sr. wrote:

Brian wrote:

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias.

That does sound like a good idea. Do the smaller wikis have something similar to the #en.wikipedia irc channel that streams RC data?

All of our wikis do.

if so, I should be able to mod cool_cat's bot (possibly just run 1 bot per wiki) and use a single channel for the smaller wikis.

Could do. Alternatively it's probably possible to adjust our RC bots to have some send a second stream (but I'm not sure offhand how to do this, Tim can you comment?)

My only issue with doing that would be, would the channel scroll so fast that no one would be able to keep track...?

In general it would hardly ever move. By definition they have low traffic. ;) -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Timwi

29 Nov 29 Nov

12:07 a.m.

Mark Williamson wrote:

I'm not sure it's nessecary. As both Angela and I have already noted in this thread, there is already a group dedicated to monitoring small Wikis for spam and vandalism.

"Not necessary" is not a reason to not do it. It is a help. And personally, I think this would be a *big* help. Timwi

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Mark Williamson

1:42 a.m.

How would it be a big help? Mark On 28/11/05, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote:

Mark Williamson wrote:

I'm not sure it's nessecary. As both Angela and I have already noted in this thread, there is already a group dedicated to monitoring small Wikis for spam and vandalism.

"Not necessary" is not a reason to not do it. It is a help. And personally, I think this would be a *big* help. Timwi _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Ashar Voultoiz

11:52 p.m.

Mark Williamson wrote:

How would it be a big help? Mark On 28/11/05, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote: >Mark Williamson wrote: > >>I'm not sure it's nessecary. As both Angela and I have already noted >>in this thread, there is already a group dedicated to monitoring small >>Wikis for spam and vandalism. > >"Not necessary" is not a reason to not do it. It is a help. And >personally, I think this would be a *big* help.

The idea is that we can get the inactive wikis to send they rc feed in one irc channel. For example: #inactives . Then people can reuse their bot to use that channel, analyse the stream and report warning. There is a very good tool written in Java that could be used by the team: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CDVF cheers, -- Ashar Voultoiz - WP++++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Hashar http://www.livejournal.com/community/wikitech/ IM: hashar(a)jabber.org ICQ: 15325080

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Mark Williamson

27 Nov 27 Nov

11:36 p.m.

... There already is such a thing, just not in an IRC channel Mark On 27/11/05, Brian <brian0918(a)gmail.com> wrote:

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias. brian0918 _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Angela

28 Nov 28 Nov

12:18 a.m.

On 27/11/05, Brian <brian0918(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism > on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC > page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 > smallest Wikipedias.

See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SWMT The bloglines feed at http://www.bloglines.com/public/inactivewikipedias collects recent changes from small Wikipedias, Wiktionaries, Wikibooks and Wikiquotes. Angela

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Mark Williamson

1:08 a.m.

Speaking of which, I've recently gone on a drive to try to eliminate active Wikis from the feed. I found a few actually, including os.wiki, cv.wiki, ceb.wiki, and ar.books, IIRC Cheers Mark On 27/11/05, Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 27/11/05, Brian <brian0918(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism > on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC > page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 > smallest Wikipedias.

See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SWMT The bloglines feed at http://www.bloglines.com/public/inactivewikipedias collects recent changes from small Wikipedias, Wiktionaries, Wikibooks and Wikiquotes. Angela _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Gordon Joly

29 Nov 29 Nov

11:30 a.m.

At 15:11 -0500 27/11/05, Brian wrote:

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias. brian0918

I run about 5 or 6 wikis using Mediawiki and from time to time we have vandalism of various kinds. So I would welcome this! -- Gordo (aka LoopZilla) gordon.joly(a)pobox.com http://pobox.com/~gordo/ http://www.loopzilla.org/

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Thomas Gries

6:03 p.m.

Brian0981 you could altneratively consider to use "EnotifWiki" (see http://www.enotif.org ) and configure that to have e-mail notifications sent out * on (watched) page changes * on changes to your user- and user_talk page * and on new page creations EnotifWiki is currently based on MediaWiki1.5rc4 and soon upgraded to 1.5.2 or HEAD. Gordon Joly schrieb:

At 15:11 -0500 27/11/05, Brian wrote:

There have been numerous reports recently of finding rampant vandalism on small Wikipedias/Wiktionaries. It might be useful to create an RC page and/or IRC channel which brings together the RC's of the ~50 smallest Wikipedias. brian0918

I run about 5 or 6 wikis using Mediawiki and from time to time we have vandalism of various kinds. So I would welcome this!

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Angela
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Matthew R. Howard, Sr.
Thomas Gries
Timwi