Correct me if I'm wrong but I think If someone has +2 rights before joining
WMF, leaving WMF is not a reason to remove rights at all. If there was a
case someone abuse their power and gets fired because of that. "The abuse"
should be the reason to lose the right not "leaving WMF"/"being
fired"/etc..
Best
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:35 AM Brian Wolff <bawolff(a)gmail.com> wrote:
To be clear, i think some common sense should apply -
e.g. If someone was
fired for trying to put a backdoor in MW they shouldnt automatically get
their rights back.
But generally speaking if they were trusted before WMF, I trust they have
the maturity after WMF to use their rights appropriately even if they are
angry or whatever. If that trust was misguided their rights can easily be
removed later (this is +2 not shell we are talking about after all).
--
Brian
On Wednesday, January 25, 2017, Kevin Smith <ksmith(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
I support restoring the rights in this case, but
I'm not sure it should
be
automatic in all cases. If having +2 rights is
relatively harmless and
reversible, then an automatic (but announced) restoration of the rights
should be fine.
The issue is that someone who leaves the foundation could do so under
unfriendly terms, possibly affecting their ability to do good work. I
know
we don't want to think that a previously
productive volunteer could later
cause problems, but it is possible.
That's why I think there should be some form of check, so we have
confidence that this person still has good intentions. For example, their
manager and/or someone from Talent & Culture could be consulted, or
trusted
people who still have close contact with the
person so know their state
of
mind. It could be quick and lightweight, in
almost all cases, but
skipping
that step entirely seems risky to me. Unless, as
I said, having +2 really
isn't a big deal.
Kevin Smith
Agile Coach, Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Subramanya Sastry <
ssastry(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> On 01/25/2017 10:04 AM, Brian Wolff wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017, Legoktm <legoktm.wikipedia(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> After speaking with Yurik, I've filed
>>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156219> on his behalf to restore
his
>>> membership in the mediawiki and
maps-dev groups.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate guidance in whether these rights can be summarily
>>> granted since he used to have them, or if it needs to go through the
>>> full process.
>>>
>>> -- Legoktm
>>>
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>> I support doing this automatically in any similar situation in the
future.
--
brian
+1.
Subbu.
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