I don't think Wikimedia will use OpenId for logging in

Can I ask why?

On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 11:38 -0700, Brion Vibber wrote: Obviously I'm happy to do more work on the MW OpenID extension as needed.

I'm also going to be using Open ID over at Wiki-Tools/Nadir-Point/GGPS. I may have a small bit of code to contribute too, to extend what cases the extension can handle. I did have an issue when I tried the extension somewhere else. When I signed up at a Open ID provider, for some reason I read the two name fields as First Name, Last Name. However in reality they were actually Full Name, Nickname. So when I logged into a wiki with Open ID I ended up with a user named "Friesen" and was stuck with that even after I changed my settings at my provider. Does the extension have good functionality for disassociating an Open ID from an account so that you can login again and fix the nickname? If it does the Extension page on MediaWiki.org has absolutely no information on it, or even links to extended help files. Also I'm looking to extend Open ID support for extra, special types of data from local providers. ie: A Wiki group hosting a number of wiki, which additionally hosts their own local Open ID provider, and wants certain extra things to be allowed from that Open ID provider. I'm namely thinking of extending two things: * Global Privileges: A group of wiki with their own Open ID provider can store something like a "staff" flag in their local Open ID provider, and set up their wiki so that it recognizes that staff flag as global. Of course it only accepts those types of data from their own local Open ID provider. * Name limitation: Add a name restriction bonus for the users of the local Open ID service. Basically so those who are dedicated enough to be using the local Open ID provider can have their nickname reserved across all wiki hosted by the same group. So, if I were to register "Dantman" on that Open ID provider, then someone else wouldn't be able to take my nickname on a wiki that group hosts even if I haven't logged in there yet to create an account. (This is similar to how the current Single Sign-On reserves nicknames I believe) ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of: -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com) -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG) -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com) Brion Vibber wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Oh crap... I wasn't even thinking about that myself. AFAIK OpenID breaks being able to login via the API? Though I can understand the point of not having bots with an Open ID account. Though that's not that great if I disable user registration for my wiki like I plan to. ~Daniel Friesen(Dantman) of: -The Gaiapedia (http://gaia.wikia.com) -Wikia ACG on Wikia.com (http://wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_ACG) -and Wiki-Tools.com (http://wiki-tools.com) Chad wrote: > We will also be piloting openID over at Veropedia. While our user > database is currently internal only, we plan to open that up to the > end-user with version 2.0 (some time off now). Hopefully openID > will give our end-users an additional alternative. > > Since our Mediawiki is used for back end information and organization > only, we will primarily be interested in methods of authentication via > the API, which will allow us to use the same user database for our > readers as well as our editors. > > I'm assuming the openID extension will be able to work through the > API as well using our normal $action = login? > > -Chad > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:59 PM, DanTMan <dan_the_man(a)telus.net>

> >> I'm also going to be using Open ID over at

>> I may have a small bit of code to contribute too, to extend what

>> the extension can handle. >> >> I did have an issue when I tried the extension somewhere else. When

>> signed up at a Open ID provider, for some reason I read the two name >> fields as First Name, Last Name. However in reality they were

>> Full Name, Nickname. So when I logged into a wiki with Open ID I

>> up with a user named "Friesen" and was stuck with that even after I >> changed my settings at my provider. >> Does the extension have good functionality for disassociating an

ID it >> does the Extension page on MediaWiki.org has absolutely no

>> on it, or even links to extended help files. >> >> Also I'm looking to extend Open ID support for extra, special types

>> data from local providers. >> ie: A Wiki group hosting a number of wiki, which additionally hosts >> their own local Open ID provider, and wants certain extra things to

can and >> set up their wiki so that it recognizes that staff flag as global.

ID >> provider. >> * Name limitation: Add a name restriction bonus for the users of the >> local Open ID service. Basically so those who are dedicated enough

be across >> all wiki hosted by the same group. So, if I were to register

my >> nickname on a wiki that group hosts even if I haven't logged in

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