At 03:50 AM 1/19/03 -0800, you wrote:
Ah, sorry, I probably should have sent this both to
the main and the tech. There are both a tech and a
policy issues here...
I am very upset
very
Yesterday, I wanted to put something on the "what to
do with wikipedia.org" page on meta
Then I realised I could not edit this page because
1. It was made with plenty of special characters and
my editing would break all of them
How could editing the page break all the special characters?
2. The page was too long anyway, so my editing would
remove the end the page
The page displays and edits well enough on my old thinkpad using explorer.
It's long, but not yet to the massive length. I suppose you were useing
netscape.
So, with the best of my energy, I opened this brand
new Opera 6, that sure indeed handle the utf stuff (so
at least I didnot mess with this)
Then, I noticed two things
1. Opera 6 handles very unwell some return to lines
(it seems to transform curiously texts edited in other
editors, and misunderstand returns)
2. For about 1 save among 2, It just crashed, so I had
to do all over again
Consequently, since I want to edit this page without
breaking it, since I know other people also have this
length issue with their browser, and since I think
some of the stuff is less important than others, and
can easily be moved to something like a sub page
I decided to break that page in more pieces. It was to
late to put everything back into good shape. So I did
only part of it, still it took me more than half an
hour, and it was painful to do (restart the browser 8
times)
I took time to explain why I was doing it, in the
comments, and on brion talk page
I didn't look at the brion talk page but there is nothing by either you or
mav in the talk page for the article itself.
This morning, I discover that what I tried to do was
considered a sort of vandalism. Everything reverted,
and more people add things on top of it.
As a conclusion
1. I can't do any revert back, or it will lose the new
stuff
2. I lost my time yesterday
3. I can't edit that page again, without breaking
things up, or making some stuff disappear. In other
words, either I am a vandal (if I edit) or I am
censored (If I don't)
4. What I did was utterly misconsidered, and abused by
Mav, who didnot even "try" to understand why I was
doing it.
So, I am very upset
Well, I've looked at this for a while (wasted my 15 minutes) and I'm pretty
confused. I was struck by your remark that some parts were more important
than others... Not sure what you then did. Part of this seems to be trying
a new browser, part just a general feeling of feeling flustered. I guess
try, try again. When you have the time and patience.
Fred