Hello Brian, and others,
Should you have anything further to add, please
consider if you wish to
divulge this email address to a public mailing list.
I would be happy to continue our discussion regarding evidence (audio,
and video), but in a public space.
Public email lists - no problem! It is just that I am old-fashioned...
I barely know how to email, so these discussion pages confuse me :-)
Email is easier to handle for me. However, I know that does not interface
well to the Wiki idea of discussion pages, and that anyone can discuss.
This email address was created specifically for Wiki use, and can probably
be seen in my profile. SO it can also be used publicly for discussion about
audio/video.
I think it is a good idea generally to save un-published stories, they
can become useful in the future. Another question is how to index and
search them, but that is another technical question. However, I feel
the writer/user should be free to delete the story from their user page.
Maybe they don't feel like being reminded forever about it :-)
I, personally, have taken an enormous amount of
flak recently, been forced to surrender positions of authority
on-project, and feel there is an element of campaigning to drive me
off-project for my more acerbic style.
Why? You seem to be the one who is actually doing something, as far
as I see! It seems to me more like most others involved in eng Wikinews
are more used to re-writes of what is already written in other internet
press, and that then of course comes with linkable handy sources.
"Source: News-of-the World" :-)
(I just found that according to Wikipedia it is 'the second-largest
selling English-language newspaper in the world', so I do have to use
News-of-the-World more frequently as a source!)
One off-wiki comment was that, given your genuine
credentials, and with
the help of one or two sv volunteers, there is a small chance you could
help kickstart
sv.wikinews.org. provided people stopped bickering....
Cool idea! Then the beatings (for any reason, good or not) would never
stop :-) Actually, I think it will not happen. Nobody expects anything
to come from swedish wikinews, no reviewer are expecting material. So
it is not clear how that would work, or what to do to make it work.
However, I did take a quick look at the finnish Wikinews, and material
seems to be published fairly regularly there. I already know that
Wiki-any is the feeding grounds for the people who enjoy spending time
bickering and flame-warring :-)
I will write later when I have time a question about what material is
'acceptable' on Wikinews, about policy.
It would have been very useful to be in contact a few weeks ago, as we
could then have done a story about the Crown Princess wedding in Stockholm,
we where there and could have done on-line immediate updates, and photo
uploads, just to show that Wikinews was as on-line and there, albeit with
much more limited resources, than the big news organiations. Now it is
not going to happen anytime soon again.
Not everyone on WMF projects is an utter freetard who
would take
away your livelihood
No, I did not think 'freetard' or say so. What I mean is that if
'the work of me' is put up on WMF freely downloadable servers, then
eventually I will have done the work of somebody else, who writes
a story using the background work I have done. And it will be
somebody I do not even know, who is not even offering me a beer after
the story gets published. It is already bad enough to send a detailed
synopsis to magazines in order to sell a story, too many will say
'no thanks', and then do the same story with their own staff.
While I personally support the idea of free information and software,
I do not have the resources to work totaly for free. If I have written
some software, I might release it for free, to help the world. Now I
have found that I can send in a few of my pictures (note: pictures I
do not think it i likely that I will ever sell and get paid for) to
Wikipedia, an contribute in that way. Do also note that I _will_
keep any pictures and material that I think I can sell at a high price
(just for your information, I have never had any celebrities or the like
kissing an unknown date in front of my camera, so I have never had any
truly sellable pictures or stories). I also do not have another work
or income that is so big and easy, that it makes it possible for me to
spend a lot of time for free for Wikipedia/Wikimedia.
Best Regards from
Jan - in Sweden