I just misread the stuff back Id written about Andy and I thought that the subtlety may be lost on 3rd parties. Andy has taken flack on the projects behalf because he supported and championed QRpedia. He doesn't have to do that. He should not have to take arrows from some who assume bad faith.( Some may say there has been a lot of that. ).  Why Andy takes the flack I have no idea, but I thank him unreservedly.

R



On 10 February 2013 12:59, Roger Bamkin <Roger@qrpedia.org> wrote:
@Joe, you are ahead of me. Wikidata is a great opportunity to improve the successful hit rate when we don't have a translation in icelandic or whatever. We may not have an article on that Finnish politician but we may well be able to tell you wikidata stuff that would tell you when she was born and died. I think I would like that as a good and quick guide to who she was.

@Tom - The privacy thing is an optimisation but as you say its a finesse to the security which ha/Davids been 3rd party assessed as good. And I thank you Tom particularly as you have been helping the project since its inception.

:@Andy - Attribution? Well of course although though I see in other conversations elsewhere that you should want to hide that you were backing a idea in good faith and assuming that if people said it would be made freely available then they meant it. Thanks very much

@Jennifer - can I buy you a beer? Its so nice to see someone who just likes good news.

I would like to thank all the people who have created the thousands of new articles and welcomed the new users and editors we have found. It rightly belongs to the community.

Roger


On 9 February 2013 23:52, Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire@gmail.com> wrote:

If we are looking at refactoring code then we should look at eventually moving to wikidata for language links.

Joe

On Feb 9, 2013 10:39 PM, "Tom Morris" <tom@tommorris.org> wrote:
On Saturday, 9 February 2013 at 20:08, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 9 February 2013 18:39, Tom Morris <tom@tommorris.org (mailto:tom@tommorris.org)> wrote:
> > Now this has been transferred to Wikimedia UK, would it be possible to
> > remove the access logging on QRpedia to ensure it complies with both the
> > letter and spirit of the WMF privacy policy.
>
>
> Is it possible to do that and retain the aggregated, anonymised
> statistics which GLAM institutions and others deploying QRpedia find
> useful? These may be analogous to Wikipedias page view stats.



That seems highly reasonable. The current issue is that the QRpedia database has a complete log of which IPs looked up which pages and when.

(Which is fine, I'm not blaming Roger or Terence. That's a perfectly reasonable thing to do with something you are starting. This isn't a security hole or a privacy intrusion, it's a standard thing anyone would do when building a project like this. But now it has reached a point of maturity and is being taken under the wing of WMUK, we need to ensure that it is compliant with the expectations of Wikimedia users.)

We need to anonymise the access data, aggregate it and then delete the non-anonymised, non-aggregated data. I'm happy to fling code around and figure out a way to do this. I've had a look at the existing code and it's easy enough to understand. We could probably do with refactoring some of the code too.

I'd suggest that it would be best for WMUK to adhere completely with the Foundation's privacy policy (mentally substitute "chapter" and "WMUK" in the relevant places) even if the chapter is not formally bound by the Foundation policy (I'm not a movement policy wonk, I don't know). In addition, not holding on to access logs but only aggregate, anonymised data means that we minimise the potential for problems under the Data Protection Act or wider European data privacy law.

I'd suggest that we resolve these issues as soon as possible. The QRpedia transfer was rather a slow process, it'd be nice if now that the transfer has been agreed, we can make sure that we resolve these kinds of issues in the next week or so (I rather prefer fixing issues when they exist only in my head rather than when people are shouting like maniacs). As I said, I'm happy to provide patches and code review in the next few days.

WMUK staff/trustees: are there any plans for transferring the source code over to Wikimedia infrastructure (Gerrit etc.)?

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