On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Aphaia <aphaia@gmail.com> wrote:
I prefer to have a longer post-mortem phase than rushing into the next
stage. I'm now in Singapore for transit and have given no many time to
input feedbacks I had gotten from Wikimania attendees. Some are just
complements, others improvement suggestions. I think one of important
parts of city bidding is to clarify the criteria and feedback from the
latest conference should be concerned in refining our current
criteria.

Best,

Well, the sooner we start, the longer it will last :-)    Are the feedbacks you received posted anywhere?  Do people with feedback know about the Comments page on the wikimania2008wiki? 

I've also been thinking that we should have a more active collaboration /about/ wikimania and related events, including long-term hosting for presentations and project-ideas and workshop-results, on metawiki (and not on a site dedicated to a specific year).

Discussions about wikimania's purpose, including annual post-mortems, might best go there.

Until we work out where, recent discussions have been posted to the wikimania2008 site:
   http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Post-mortem

Sharing in other languages the fact that there is a public post-mortem discussion might be a good idea.

SJ

 

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM, effe iets anders
<effeietsanders@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, to be honest I think we first should think about the general
> time schedule. Do we want to hurry or do we first want to reconsider
> what kind or conference we want in the coming years and build the
> wikimanias around that idea. It means a lot whether we want a very
> unofficial conference or whether we want a more serious conference
> which could for instance mean more possibilities for finding sponsors
> and having a serious media look during the conference, more results
> with respect to the main goals we have etc etc... I do know that at
> least the program committee needs a huge evaluation (as soon as Jakob
> and me are home, we will do that I guess) and I assume also other
> teams want to do that, before we would do a wikimania wide evaluation,
> and draw results from that.
>
> So a few big questions ahead, which can very much influence the choice
> of the city. Personally I'd not want to rush anything until we know
> that.
>
> On the page you created, which is of course a draft, it has been
> assumed almost that we choose the early schedule, even though it is
> still a draft (you could also make changes there, and still call it a
> draft, even though the main window has been set).
>
> I sincerely hope we can have an open discussion *first* on whether we
> need evaluation, together with local team, committees, WMF etc, and
> then see how long we need for that to draw conclusions etc.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2008/7/23 Cary Bass <cbass@wikimedia.org>:
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>> effe iets anders wrote:
>> | Ehm? Did you decide on the timeline now? :S
>> |
>> | Just for the record, is this a WMF decision, or just what we call in
>> | Dutch a "proefballon", a little test to taste the reactions.
>> |
>> | as explained in my previous email, I see barely advantages and a lot
>> | of disadvantages. I sincerely hope this time schedule will not be
>> | close to what it will be, especially not without a little more
>> | rationale?
>> |
>> | Best regards,
>> |
>> | Lodewijk
>> |
>>
>> Perhaps you missed the page title "Draft Timeline".  Or my comment, "It
>> *is* a wiki".  That is, I anticipate much discussion and explanation as
>> well as consensus about the timelines.  I believe Damien Finol has
>> already begun the talk page.
>>
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