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David Gerard

26 Nov 2006 26 Nov '06

1:27 a.m.

Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately? - d.

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James Hare

26 Nov 26 Nov

1:53 a.m.

FINALLY! Uh, anyways, I got a book from Amazon about the History of the Papacy. I'll be using it to (continue) improving the article on History of the Papacy. On 11/25/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately? - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

David Gerard

2 a.m.

On 26/11/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Uh, anyways, I got a book from Amazon about the History of the Papacy. I'll be using it to (continue) improving the article on History of the Papacy.

I must get to the boxes with the books in and hit the specialist encyclopedias. Whereas general encyclopedias are tertiary sources, subject-respected specialist encyclopedias are secondary sources and often have a great deal of primary research, so are eminently usable as reference material. - d.

James Hare

2:03 a.m.

Oh hells yes. Where can I buy a series of specialist encyclopedias? Also, I saw you on Citizendium. \o/ On 11/25/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 26/11/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Uh, anyways, I got a book from Amazon about the History of the Papacy.

I'll

be using it to (continue) improving the article on History of the

Papacy. I must get to the boxes with the books in and hit the specialist encyclopedias. Whereas general encyclopedias are tertiary sources, subject-respected specialist encyclopedias are secondary sources and often have a great deal of primary research, so are eminently usable as reference material. - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

David Gerard

2:24 a.m.

On 26/11/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Oh hells yes. Where can I buy a series of specialist encyclopedias?

I think we're writing it.

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Also, I saw you on Citizendium. \o/

shhhhhhhhh! (now I need to write something there too ...) - d.

James Hare

5:02 a.m.

Oh pfft, I mean a series of specialist encyclopedias THAT IS NOT WIKIPEDIA! :) On 11/25/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 26/11/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Oh hells yes. Where can I buy a series of specialist encyclopedias?

I think we're writing it.

Also, I saw you on Citizendium. \o/

shhhhhhhhh! (now I need to write something there too ...) - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Alphax (Wikipedia email)

5:35 a.m.

James Hare wrote:

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On 11/25/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 26/11/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Oh hells yes. Where can I buy a series of specialist encyclopedias?

I think we're writing it.

Oh pfft, I mean a series of specialist encyclopedias THAT IS NOT WIKIPEDIA! :)

The first step would be finding a list of titles (this one is pulled from my library's search results): * The Encyclopedia Americana * Encyclopedia and dictionary of medicine and nursing * Encyclopedia Canadiana * Gakugei hyakka jiten = Encyclopedia epoca * Encyclopedia for snare drum * Encyclopaedia Judaica year book * Encyclopedia Mensuelle d'Outre-Mer * Encyclopedia mythica * Encyclopedia of 20th-century architecture * Encyclopedia of 20th-century journalists * Encyclopedia of 20th century photography * Encyclopedia of 20th century warfare * Encyclopedia of acoustics * Encyclopedia of actuarial science * Encyclopedia of advertising * MacDonald's encyclopedia of Africa * Encyclopedia of African history and culture * Encyclopedia of agricultural science * Encyclopedia of American associations * Encyclopedia of American biography ... then go to Amazon, eBay, etc. and see if you can get a copy. Alternatively, borrow one from a library... -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

Ray Saintonge

8:04 a.m.

James Hare wrote:

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Oh hells yes. Where can I buy a series of specialist encyclopedias?

I just looked at eBay for the listing for encyclopedias in books, and it gave me 3555 hits. Prices vary from 1 cent for more than 30 items to $1,888.88 for an English translation of the 31 volume Great Soviet Encyclopedia. The cheapest 50 include encyclopedias on Home plans Women's health Dieting Natural healing Drawing techniques Military Modelling Collectibles Sports Stichery US at War Film Directors Dreams Star Wars Networking and Telecommunications Cooking "Encyclopedia Brown" Mystical & Paranormal Experiences Witchcraft and Demonology Espresso Children's Encyclopedia Card Tricks Fishing Plants and Flowers James Bond E Business Music Common Diseases Alien Encounters Aquarium Fish Reptiles and Amphibians There was also a copy of the 1945 EB. That should be enough for anybody. Imagine getting all 50 cheapest ones for less than $4.00 + shipping. :-) Ec

Sean Barrett

2:27 a.m.

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Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately? - d.

I've been bringing [[NORAD Tracks Santa]] into the era of Homeland Security. Not being stupid, tho ... that's not going so well. - -- Sean Barrett | What good does it do merely to sean(a)epoptic.com | stun them? --Worsel of Velantia

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Jim Schuler

6:31 p.m.

I wonder what Santa's security clearance level is. On 11/25/06, Sean Barrett <sean(a)epoptic.com> wrote:

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Steve Bennett

3:26 a.m.

On 11/26/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately?

James Hare

3:34 a.m.

Speaking of translation, I have a semi-active effort to translate the French article on the Phalanx formation into English, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Messedrocker/Phalanx-fr2en On 11/25/06, Steve Bennett <stevagewp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 11/26/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately?

I translated most of [[Phare de la Vieille]]. It's a very long article (especially the French original version) about an insignificant lighthouse off the coast of Brittany. And lots of stubs. Also, probably the only stub I've started which has since been significantly expanded, [[Todd Skinner]]. Thanks for asking! :) Steve _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Steve Bennett

9:05 a.m.

On 11/26/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Speaking of translation, I have a semi-active effort to translate the French article on the Phalanx formation into English, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Messedrocker/Phalanx-fr2en

Out of curiosity, how come you're translating the whole article, then merging? Won't you end up with redundant sections? Anyway, the method I've been using (for new articles) that I quite like is to start by copying the entire French article into an HTML comment in the corresponding en article, then to slowly work through it, deleting bits from the comments as I translate them. It has the advantage that I can pause work anytime I like, leaving someone else to continue, and also there's no danger of anyone duplicating my work inadvertently. [[Ar Men]] is another example - I've only really translated the first sentence or so, but anyone else (if they really felt like it), could just dive in and keep going... Steve

Jim Schuler

6:33 p.m.

I'll play with it, if you don't mind. On 11/25/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 11/26/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately?

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Jim Schuler

6:43 p.m.

Sadly, this phrase is not used anywhere else but Wiki and articles mirroring Wiki... "période post-géométrique" On 11/26/06, Jim Schuler <jim62sch(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I'll play with it, if you don't mind. On 11/25/06, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 11/26/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately?

since been significantly expanded, [[Todd Skinner]]. Thanks for asking! :) Steve _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Matthew Brown

6:04 a.m.

On 11/25/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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So ... written any good articles lately?

I actually decided to take a break from both Arbcom and paying job over this long American weekend and write some articles. Mostly filling in gaps in our railway coverage - I'm knocking [[EMD MRS-1]] into shape, which is a fascinating locomotive built for the US Army in the Fifties explicitly to be able to run on captured Russian railways in the event of World War 3. Since the war never happened, they sat in storage for 20 years and then got used all over the place when sold off as surplus, once the USA realised that such a land war was not going to happen. It also brought into focus that for all our seemingly exhaustive coverage of matters military, non-modern non-combat units of even the US Army are almost completely ignored and hard to research. since everyone seems only interested in the pointy weapons and not the logistics machine that makes it all run. So much for 1.5 million articles meaning there's nothing left to add! -Matt

James Hare

6:15 a.m.

Yeah, I find that annoying, too. Like this one time when I found an excellent article from the Mayo Clinic about Tinnitus, so I run over to the Wikipedia article about it and find a detailed article. Aww, so much for that! On 11/26/06, Matthew Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 11/25/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

So ... written any good articles lately?

geni

4:51 p.m.

On 11/26/06, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Come to this thread and be not stupid! So ... written any good articles lately? - d.

Not really. Uploaded a few old maps of parts of london but running into problems that I don't know the areas well enough to tell where the boarders are. -- geni

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Alphax (Wikipedia email)
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