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Blair P. Houghton

16 Mar 2005 16 Mar '05

3:33 a.m.

While in the middle of a series of edits and a discussion of those edits, user Blair P. Houghton was blocked by admin CryptoDerk, whose note on the blocked user's talk page indicated that the admin had neither read the talk page nor verified that the three-revert-rule had been broken. What is the usual procedure for having admin privileges stripped in cases of abuse? --Blair

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Jack Lutz

16 Mar 16 Mar

3:51 a.m.

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What is the usual procedure for having admin privileges stripped in cases

of abuse? Apparently one must make an appeal to ArbCom or Jimbo, though note that only a few (2?) sysops have lost privileges on EN. See also the proposed [[Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship]].

Blair P. Houghton

4:06 a.m.

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What is the usual procedure for having admin privileges stripped in cases

of abuse? Apparently one must make an appeal to ArbCom or Jimbo, though note that only a few (2?) sysops have lost privileges on EN. See also the proposed [[Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship]]. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Andrew Lih

4:23 a.m.

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Blair, according to the 3RR page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Three_revert_rule#Enforcement this is the right place to go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#Us… -Andrew (User:Fuzheado) On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:06:30 -0700, Blair P. Houghton <blair(a)houghton.net> wrote:

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Blair P. Houghton

4:28 a.m.

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I can't go there. While blocked, I'm not allowed to edit any pages on the website. Which includes discussing repercussions against those who railroaded me. 3RR has a Catch-22. --Blair Andrew Lih wrote:

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Ray Saintonge

5:11 p.m.

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Blair P. Houghton wrote:

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I can't go there. While blocked, I'm not allowed to edit any pages on the website. Which includes discussing repercussions against those who railroaded me. 3RR has a Catch-22.

Perhaps what is needed is a separate mailing list for disciplinary issues. That would address the real dilemma that Blair raises. This kind of thing generates a lot of heat on this mailing list. By having a separate list only those interested in such matters would be exposed to it. Ec

Anthere

6:38 a.m.

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I think that Jimbo might have sligthly more pressing matters than investigating himself all disputes on the english wikipedia. He certainly do cares and would regret a lot that abuse is practiced, but any investigation takes a lot of time. This is why an arbcom was set. So that an instance can be delegated power by Jimbo and by the community to consider such things. So, for any such issue, you should first of all consider turning to the arbcom, and trust the arbcom to take the right decision; and see Jimbo as the final person you can go to when ALL OTHER means have failed (to your opinion). Ant Blair P. Houghton a écrit:

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[[Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship]] says to ask here, or Jimbo. Which I guess means Jimbo is the only one who counts. And he doesn't seem to care that admins aren't paying attention to the voted-on criteria for blocking users, as it's not sufficient cause to block an admin. --Blair Jack Lutz wrote: >> What is the usual procedure for having admin privileges stripped in cases > > > of abuse? > > Apparently one must make an appeal to ArbCom or Jimbo, though note > that only > a few (2?) sysops have lost privileges on EN. See also the proposed > [[Wikipedia:Requests for de-adminship]]. > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

Theresa Knott

4:45 a.m.

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:33:34 -0700, Blair P. Houghton <blair(a)houghton.net> wrote:

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While in the middle of a series of edits and a discussion of those edits,

" I am working with others, apparently in the way that a teacher works with a class of juvenile delinquents. " That's what you call discussing the edits? Theresa

Blair P. Houghton

5:06 a.m.

It's what I call responding to specious allegations by a group of sardonic children. But thanks for taking the quote out of context. I'll be giving a lecture on intellectual dishonesty in short order. --Blair Theresa Knott wrote:

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:33:34 -0700, Blair P. Houghton <blair(a)houghton.net> wrote:

While in the middle of a series of edits and a discussion of those edits,

" I am working with others, apparently in the way that a teacher works with a class of juvenile delinquents. " That's what you call discussing the edits? Theresa _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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