On Wednesday 20 November 2002 11:31 am, kq wrote:
> LDC saw the writing on the wall long before I did. I should have left
> well enough alone. apologies again for the unbanning; I'm having less
> and less faith that Lir will cease antagonizing.
>
> kq
I just want to say that I don't fault you for unbanning Lir - you only had
good intentions in doing so and couldn't have known just how much of a
persistant pest Lir would be. Sometimes I even think she will change but then
she pulls another anti-social stunt.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 11:31 am, Larry wrote:
>......
> I don't mean to put words in your mouth of course. I'm just saying that,
> IMO, Wikipedia is really suffering, and even losing people. You're in a
> position to help embolden the most productive members of the project, who
> it seems to me are, in at least some cases, getting very discouraged.
I for one am getting discouraged and worn-out by all the Wikipedia time I am
wasting trying to defend things like naming conventions that are central to
the inclusive nature of the project and were decided a very long time ago. I
support your proposal Larry but fear that I won't have time to help develop
the documentation you call for.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
How about reviving the old rule that if you save somebody's life, you're responsible for them for ever after?
Let's assign kq the job of following Lir around and checking up on her :-)
Ed Poor
Going over last night's work, I notice that Angstrom has been redone to
include all the various diacretics. Is that common usage in English?
Oh, and Lir, I also noticed on your page that you refer to Jesus Christ as
Yehoshua of Nazareth. A very cute attempt to go back to the Hebrew/Aramaic,
but there are so many mistakes in that transliteration, it really makes it
useless.
1. There is no "ho" in the name. Yehoshua is Joshua, Yeshua is Jesus. In
fact, in Deuteronomy, Joshua's name was changed from Jesus--you are just
changing it back.
2. You're forgetting the gutteral ayin after the final a in Yeshua (though in
Hebrew/Aramaic writing it appears as if it would be before, the proper
pronunciation places it after).
3. Nazareth is just so far off the mark, it's not even worth explaining.
4. "Of" would "me" in Hebrew or "de" in Aramaic, without distinguishing
between the different vowels (tzeireh and shewa).
In other words, here your "attempt at accuracy" is just confused gibberish,
i.e., it is wrong. Stick to languages you know something about.
Danny
You Wrote:
>How about reviving the old rule that if you save somebody's life,
you're responsible for them for ever after?
>
>Let's assign kq the job of following Lir around and checking up on
her :-)
>
>Ed Poor
Very funny. Kq has been considering leaving wikipedia, and finding
very few reasons to stay.
kq
It will take a while for people to sort out which list is which. It will help when the reply-to line is fixed (I took a whack at it just now).
* Wikien-l is the English 'pedia
* Wikipedia-l is the project as a whole (English-speakers on an equal footing with all other languag.s)
Ed Poor
List Administrator Pro Tem
Wiki-En Mailing List
"We aim to please"
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 04:00 am, Khendon / Jason Williams wrote:
> I've been here a few months now; can I be a sysop, please?
As a matter of fact I was thinking about inviting you to become one.
Developers, please upgrade Khendon's account to sysop.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
PS Khendon this is a request better suited for the en.wiki mailing list
(wikiEN-L).
tarquin Wrote:
>Here's another thing WikipediaIsNot: a creche.
>
>Lir's been learning to follow rules, sure: she's applying NPOV to such
>entries as Star Wars (maybe the empire isn't evil) and Vampirism
>
><snip>
>
>meanwhile, she is getting up more & more people's noses: see Talk:Battle
>of Dien Bien Phu
LDC saw the writing on the wall long before I did. I should have left
well enough alone. apologies again for the unbanning; I'm having less
and less faith that Lir will cease antagonizing.
kq
Could someone fix this list? Reply-to is not set; Ed's last post came to
me only.
Please could Jimbo or one of the developers do something about TMC's
username? The joke is old and tired. The guy is clearly taking the piss:
"I neither request nor consent to a database driven name change. If this
is done done without my request or consent, it is analagous to the use
of force against me. TMC"
Big deal. We've lost Isis because of this username -- has everyone
forgotten that?
What's the soft security way here? Cunctator, do you have any bright
ideas how we can softly enforce Community Expectation?