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Guillaume Paumier

13 Mar 2007 13 Mar '07

2:33 p.m.

Hello, It is the second time in two weeks I have to restore a deleted image that appears on the [[Wikimedia logo mosaic]]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delet… http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delet… It may be because of our brand new CommonsDelinker (great tool btw), some admins may feel they can delete images without checking the usage of all photos. This is not the case. Please always checkusage before deleting. If you are about to delete an image appearing in the mosaic, find another one to replace it *before* deleting the bad one. And please, do not turn this thread into an endless argument about « why haven't all these images been verified before », I am sure they have been. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org

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geni

13 Mar 13 Mar

2:45 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I fail to see any reason to hesitate when it come to deleteing likely copyvios. -- geni

Guillaume Paumier

2:58 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, It is the second time in two weeks I have to restore a deleted image

that

appears on the [[Wikimedia logo mosaic]]:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delet…

> It may be because of our brand new CommonsDelinker (great tool btw), some

admins may feel they can delete images without checking the usage of all photos. This is not the case. Please always checkusage before deleting.

you are about to delete an image appearing in the mosaic, find another

one

to replace it *before* deleting the bad one.

I fail to see any reason to hesitate when it come to deleteing likely copyvios.

I fail to see any reason to not take some minutes to find a similar image to replace it before the deletion. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org

Pedro Sanchez

3:06 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello,

> It is the second time in two weeks I have to restore a deleted image

that

> appears on the [[Wikimedia logo mosaic]]: >

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delet…

> > It may be because of our brand new CommonsDelinker (great tool btw), some

> admins may feel they can delete images without checking the usage of all > photos. This is not the case. Please always checkusage before deleting.

> you are about to delete an image appearing in the mosaic, find another

one

to replace it *before* deleting the bad one.

I fail to see any reason to hesitate when it come to deleteing likely

copyvios.

I fail to see any reason to not take some minutes to find a similar image to replace it before the deletion. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

AS pretty as mosaic is, it's not a top priority. That's why.

Guillaume Paumier

3:16 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I fail to see any reason to not take some minutes to find a similar

image to

replace it before the deletion.

AS pretty as mosaic is, it's not a top priority. That's why.

Pedro Sanchez

3:27 p.m.

New subject: Please do not delete images used on [[Wikimedia logo mosaic]]

On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I fail to see any reason to not take some minutes to find a similar

image to

replace it before the deletion.

AS pretty as mosaic is, it's not a top priority. That's why.

If deleting images were so easy, we would let bots deal with it. You (meaning you human commons admins) are supposed to have a brain and use it. Of course it is easier to click the delete button without bothering replacing it. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

If it's a copyvio, it should be deleted on sight, it being on the mosaic is no excuse for waiting (I was commenting on above's comment above copyvios).

Guillaume Paumier

3:33 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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If it's a copyvio, it should be deleted on sight, it being on the mosaic is no excuse for waiting (I was commenting on above's comment above copyvios).

Hey, I hate copyvios as much as everybody, I have deleted thousands of them, I am clearly not saying we should keep copyvios with the excuse of them being on the mosaic or any other much-viewed page. I am asking admins to think a little and take 1 minute to find another image to replace it with an image from the colours gallery [1]. [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_logo_mosaic/Colours_gallery -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org

Pedro Sanchez

3:35 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

If it's a copyvio, it should be deleted on sight, it being on the mosaic is no excuse for waiting (I was commenting on above's comment above copyvios).

I'm saying, once the pressing matter is done (deleting the copyvio), there are other more pressing matters than looking for a image that fits in the mosaic. Yes, mosaic pretty. Finding replacements for it nice thing to do. But again, it's not a top priority, we shouldn't stop doing what we're doing just to attend the mosaic. Onc eagain, doing so it's a nice thing however.

Guillaume Paumier

3:51 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Yes, mosaic pretty. Finding replacements for it nice thing to do. But again, it's not a top priority, we shouldn't stop doing what we're doing just to attend the mosaic. Onc eagain, doing so it's a nice thing however.

This page is linked from an official press release from the foundation. It is linked from the first frame of [[Commons:Welcome]] which is the first link on Commons Main page. So yes, I think keeping it without red links is important. It is sad if I am the only one. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org

Gregory Maxwell

6:36 p.m.

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If the mosaic is going to get in the way of our fundimental mission then we might need to reconsider if we should be keeping it at all. ... Although I agree with Erik's view that a few broken images in the mosaic are not a bad thing. In any case, a copy vio image should never be undeleted simbly because it has not yet been replaced. On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

David Gerard

7:56 p.m.

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On 13/03/07, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Well, how was the mosaic constructed? How did we go through the images finding ones of the right average colour? Presumably someone could do a checking run again looking for verified-status images of the right average colour for use as copyvio replacements on an ongoing basis. The mosaic can cope with temporary holes while a violation is being replaced if there's a pile of known-good replacements to hand. - d.

Florian Straub

14 Mar 14 Mar

8:28 a.m.

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"David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote on Tue, 13 Mar 2007:

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On 13/03/07, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Brianna Laugher

12:41 a.m.

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On 14/03/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hear hear. Look, Guillom is not forcing you to replace the images. But there already exists a gallery you can use to replace images ( http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_logo_mosaic/Colours_gallery ) so it's not an onerous amount of work. How about everyone just keeps it in mind and takes a little bit more care with deletion. cheers, Brianna user:pfctdayelise

Cary Bass

13 Mar 13 Mar

3:33 p.m.

New subject: Please do not delete images used on [[Wikimedialogo mosaic]]

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-----Original Message----- From: commons-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:commons-l- bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pedro Sanchez Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:28 AM To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Please do not delete images used on [[Wikimedialogo mosaic]] On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/13/07, Pedro Sanchez <pdsanchez(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I fail to see any reason to not take some minutes to find a similar

image to

replace it before the deletion.

AS pretty as mosaic is, it's not a top priority. That's why.

If deleting images were so easy, we would let bots deal with it. You (meaning you human commons admins) are supposed to have a brain and use

it.

Of course it is easier to click the delete button without bothering replacing it. -- Guillaume Paumier [[m:User:guillom]] http://www.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l

If it's a copyvio, it should be deleted on sight, it being on the mosaic is no excuse for waiting (I was commenting on above's comment above copyvios). _______________________________________________ Commons-l mailing list Commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/commons-l -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 7:19 PM

Are these all copyvios? Or something less severe, like No Source, or Replaced. It's fairly easy to determine if anything is being used on Commons without even going into checkusage. The pages they're being used on are listed right on the image page. Cary

Erik Moeller

3:19 p.m.

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On 3/13/07, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hello, It is the second time in two weeks I have to restore a deleted image that appears on the [[Wikimedia logo mosaic]]:

In some way, the torn apart mosaic would be a nice visual indication of the rate of content loss we suffer from copyvios. ;-) I agree with you that it's good manners to check usage before deleting, but I still prefer deleting a copyvio to leaving it alone. Redundant and "low quality" images are another matter, though. -- Peace & Love, Erik DISCLAIMER: This message does not represent an official position of the Wikimedia Foundation or its Board of Trustees. "An old, rigid civilization is reluctantly dying. Something new, open, free and exciting is waking up." -- Ming the Mechanic

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Brianna Laugher
Cary Bass
David Gerard
Erik Moeller
Florian Straub
geni
Gregory Maxwell
Guillaume Paumier
Pedro Sanchez