Brianna Laugher schrieb:
2009/2/3 Daniel Kinzler <daniel(a)brightbyte.de>de>:
We should *really* push for decent metadata
support in mediawiki. An appropriate
extension already exists, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RDF>.
That extension would make it easy to generate RDF (with Dublin Core, Creative
Commons and other voicabularies) for each image (and any other page).
We should request that extension as a community. If it's not quite ready for
prime time, I'm sure it can be made ready.
So, what should we do, exactly? File a bug report and pile-on with
comments/votes? Hold an on-wiki vote? Is there some other way of
demonstrating that we consider it important?
The process for enabling an extension is:
1) have a community discussion
2) document "consensus" over wanting it
3) make a feature request on bugzilla, pointing to the conssensus
4) sever admins look at the extension
5) server admins complain about what needs to be fixed.
6) someone fixes it
7) rinse, repeat.
8) depending on how big the change it, it may go live on
test.wikipedia.org
first. Probably not needed here.
9) depending on how big the change is, it may take a while to get enabled. This
one should be quick, I think.
>> 3-
Wikipedia doesn't have an OAI interface so we would need to look at
>> how to ingest the data.
> Use the API?
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?format=xml&action=query&gene…
It's not really that simple, is it?
Here is one imageinfo "comment":
{{BotMoveToCommons|en.wikipedia}}
{{Information
|Description={{en|ME}}
|Source=Transferred from [
http://en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia];
transferred to Commons by [[User:Fale]] using
[
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~magnus/commonshelper.php
CommonsHelper].<br/
(yes, it ends in malformed html!)
Pretty obvious that a middle layer of "community API" is required, isn't
it?
Or propert suppoer for storing property/value pairs in mediawiki. didn't we just
have that discussion a few days ago?
We DO have an
OAI interface:
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_update_feed_service>.
"A new release of the OAI client for MediaWiki 1.7, offering best
compatibility with current Wikipedia data rendering, is scheduled for
late July 2006." Can't wait!!
I think it exists, the page just didn't get updated. But it's relevant only of
you want tu use mediawiki as a *client* to the OAI stream. It's not relevant if
you just want to fetch changes. That interface exists.
Is "near-real-time" implicit in OAI? If not,
and if OAI is a common
standard amongst cultural institutions etc, then doesn't it make more
sense to have a widely-available freely accessible OAI interface?
This is mostly used by search engines, and i think the foundation likes them to
pay. Researches usually get free access. If the OAI stream should be opened up
to all is something that would need to be discussed with the foundation.
-- daniel