On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:16:37 -0700, "Matthew Brown" <morven(a)gmail.com>
said:
On 8/12/07, Florence Devouard
<Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I do not see what's wrong with this. I set up
this policy on meta a long
time ago, because I felt it is non sense to stay admin when one does not
need the tool and never come to the site. It is written in the policy
and I consider that when someone ask to become admin on a site, one
knows the policy attached to the status. In the over 2 years this has
been implemented, I read no significant complain.
I've seen some complaints. Perhaps not too many because frankly fewer
people are as interested in Meta or need it for their day-to-day work
on a Wikimedia project.
Personally I consider the Meta policy excellent and in the proposed
admin policy
(
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Adminship_policy)
I would like to see a form on confirmation on Commons.
Anyone removed can also ask to be reinstated.
I note that this part seems now to be controversial on Commons. Or at
least, that it should be near automatic, and not require
reconfirmation.
The link above shows that Commons is working towards this and
simplifying the return to tools for those who do relinquish them. In
pratice an ex-Admin had the tools restored in 24 hours on Commons a
couple of weeks ago - no one objected.
I do not know why you say that users are not
notified. I was one of the
persons concerned by the deadminship on commons, and I received a
notification on my talk page. I was informed.
Notified that the policy change was up for vote. I believe the low
voting numbers show that not many people even knew it was up for
discussion. It isn't that hard to post something to this mailing
list, or to place a sitenotice or similar.
I would have no problem with policy about total inactivity. What I do
have an issue about is that it requires regular admin action, not
simply user action.
-Matt
Surely the onus is on any of us who consider ourselves active to watch
what is going on - if I miss any discussion I do not see why someone
should feel oblidged to point it out to me?
As to the fact that it is now admin actions thta are in focus - that was
the issue the community felt was at the core of this. Admin tools are
janitorial in nature - they are for using. When folk need them they
should be able to get them and when they no longer use them they should
be relinquished (but be able to get them back if they return to
activity).
Herby
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