On 18/11/2007, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote: Heh. If it means that specific metadata is developed so that license-sensitive search engines can recognise them, that seems like a good thing to me. cheers, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 19:46 +0000, Oldak Quill wrote: "CC Zero" is how it has been discussed inside CC. It looks like the uncyclopedia/open content version is at http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Template:NoLicense Heh indeed. (But in all seriousness, I'd love to see a serious legal analysis of this and less humorous anti-copyright statements, probably dozens of which have been independently invented over the years, most recently seen at http://www.intellectualprivilege.com/blog/2007/11/uncopyright-notice.html) AFAIK the important thing for search engines is to link to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/ possibly qualified by rel="license". There's also metadata at that URL that would let a license aware tool autodiscover the characteristics of that "license". Non-CC licenses or public domain or "anti-copyright" thingies that have a canonical URL could publish such metadata. Visual branding/naming doesn't matter at all *technically*. The technical part of CC-Ø will define some additional optional metadata concerning how or who a work is dedicated or certified to be in the public domain or otherwise unencumbered, but there's nothing concrete yet. -- http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Mike_Linksvayer

On Nov 17, 2007 4:03 PM, Kjetil Ree <kjetil_r(a)yahoo.com> wrote: "CC-ih" ? [Not directed towards kjetil in particular] I'm not sure everyone would pick up on that, might be easier if we just refer to it as "CC-none" or "CC-released" or something of the sort, rather than "CC-Ø". Licensing is hard enough for newbies (even for oldbies!) and there's so much confusion over which CC licenses are accepted, it's easier for us to say "we accept CC-by, CC-by-sa, and CC-none" than it is to use "CC-Ø". Not everyone using keyboards without the Ø character wants to memorise and then type "Alt+0216" to produce it, or wants to have to copypaste every time they want to mention it ;) -- Ayelie (Editor at Large)

"Bryan Tong Minh" <bryan.tongminh(a)gmail.com> wrote on Saturday, November 17, 2007 10:27 PM: Null or zero sounds great. Especially since a sign similar to Ø can be used to distinguish O from 0 over here. Regards, Flo

On 18/11/2007, Andrew Gray <shimgray(a)gmail.com> wrote: "Eww, your picture is covered in CC-thetans." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_thetan ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu ) - d.