Hoi,<br>The conference in Paris was a Commons conference and while important, the GLAM part was only part of what we did. It was a &quot;working conference&quot; very much intended to prepare for the Ford foundation project to improve the usability of Commons.<br>

<br>As you may appreciate, my mail was intended to inform that we have been talking and, to indicate in what direction the thinking was going. There is no intention to write an official communique and if at all it will not have anything firm in there except for &quot;we consider working with GLAM very important&quot;. When you work with GLAMs you may also know that there is a mailing list on the subject.<br>

<br>At that we came to the conclusion that we do not necessarily know who is doing what in this field ...<br>Thanks,<br>      GerardM<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/11/8 Craig Franklin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:craig@halo-17.net">craig@halo-17.net</a>&gt;</span><br>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi All,</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Will there be an official communiqué concerning the things that
were discussed at this conference?  Some of the GLAM institutes that I am
working with would doubtlessly be interested in what’s planned for the future
where Commons is concerned.</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Cheers,</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Craig F.</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">commons-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gerard
Meijssen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 9 November 2009 6:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List; Wikimedia Commons Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Commons-l] Update from Paris</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal">Hoi.<br>
The French chapter did a wonderful job organising some of the brightest lights
that deal with Commons in one place. Many subjects were discussed and some
things were achieved.<br>
<br>
The two (technical) things that stand out on the achieving part..</p>

<ul type="disc">
 <li class="MsoNormal">there is now global usage for images from within
     MediaWiki itself.. so no need for using the toolserver... The process of
     gathering all the necessary data may now have ended..</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">a first stab has been made at subtitles for video</li>
</ul>

<ul type="disc">
 <li class="MsoNormal">In the discussion there were many things I found
     absolutely wonderful:</li>
</ul>

<ul type="disc">
 <li class="MsoNormal">the workflow of uploads will be reconsidered;
     this means that a &quot;working area&quot; will exists where pictures can
     have a temporary home. This will allow to upload a batch of images and tag
     them all with shared attributes.. It will also allow for the checking of
     known issues BEFORE they go live</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">This working or staging area would also exist for
     GLAMs or competitions</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">A demo was given for what a competion workflow
     might look like</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">Pictures are now deleted when certain attributes
     are wrong or missing.. When they are pushed back into the staging area, we
     are less nasty and allow for cooperation </li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">Social networking tools help us support newbies,
     resolve issues in a quiet way.. This helps us realise our objectives;
     write an encyclopaedia, build a kick arse freely licensed resource of
     multi media</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">there is a mailing list for people involved in
     GLAM and the outreach to GLAM, many people subscribed and hopefully this
     will lead to better coordination and in shared lessons learned</li>
</ul>

<p class="MsoNormal">It was a great meeting.. There were a few critical issues as
far as I am concerned:</p>

<ul type="disc">
 <li class="MsoNormal">several relevant people refuse to post / answer
     on the foundation-l. The list proves to be irrelevant because this list
     does not get that message</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">currently there is no alternative...
     LiquidThreads may help as it is a pull not a push mechanism ...</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">some people I missed at the meeting, Durova being
     the most notable</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">our focus was about improving Commons for the
     people that use it particuarly as contributors.. The success of our
     project is however the result of use and reuse. \</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">subtitles was one of the more important
     novelties, we need to make the reuse in WordPress, Drupal .... as easy as
     the reuse of Commons in MediaWiki !! The API is getting to the stage where
     that is doable</li>
</ul>

<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<br>
    GerardM</p>

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