[Wikitech-l] Re: Useless "developers"

I think Servien is frustrated by the fact that nds.wikipedia is effectively taken over by German nationalists who have succeeded in making people write a language spoken in parts of four countries, using grammatic rules and conventions from only one. the fact that the majority of the people writing in nds: lives in Germany was abused to vote to make it a "democratic" decision. Anton

Servien Ilaino wrote: > Thanks for your comments... but I got the message, besides it wasn't > "childish" in my opinion, it was meant to get a reaction for once, > apparently this is what it takes :(. I took my chill pills, so we'll see > when it all happens :) > > Serv > > > 2006/1/8, Mark Williamson > <node.ue(a)gmail.com>om>: > >> Servien, >> >> When new Wikipedias have been created in the past, it wasn't because >> we called the developers names or resorted to other such childish >> tactics. >> >> It is because we were patient, treated them with respect, asked kindly >> and in a personal way, and didn't pout if they didn't give us what we >> asked for _right away_. >> >> If I had acted like you are right now in advocating for their >> creation, I'm betting we wouldn't have the Udmurt, Venet, Lombard, >> etc. Wikipedias. >> >> So take my advice and take it down a notch. Take a chill pill. You're >> not going to die if these Wikipedias aren't created immediately. You >> have to be patient. The developers are your friends. >> >> They are on a busy schedule, and remember that it is a volunteer job >> and they aren't paid except by donations (with one exception). The >> developers have to worry about "real" jobs, school, family, and every >> other concern of normal human beings because after all, they _are_ >> normal human beings (a developer can correct me if I'm wrong there). >> >> So give them a break. If you do, the Wikipedias will be created >> eventually. If you don't, it will never be created. >> >> Mark >> >> On 08/01/06, Servien Ilaino >> <servien(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm sure they are usefull for developing software. But most people >> >> >> who've >> >>> requested a wiki are kind of getting tired of waiting all the time. >> >> >> First >> >>> they have to go through a long boring process which can take up to even >> >> >> half >> >>> a year before they are approved when it's approved they wait about >> >> >> another >> >>> half a year... by that time most people who initially wanted to work on >> >> >> the >> >>> project decided not to anymore. >>> >>> If someone would have told us the whole blikketyblek is frozen, we >>> would >>> have had some kind of understanding. ISO codes aren't enoug: these >>> wikis >>> have been approved this means there have been serious discussions. >>> >>> I really hope a new wiki will be created this year though. (if >>> possible) >>> >>> Serv >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2006/1/8, Sam Korn <smoddy(a)gmail.com>om>: >>> >>>> On 1/7/06, Daniel Mayer >>>> <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A much better policy needs to be created that takes this into >> >> >> account. >> >>>> Preferably a much better and *retroactive* policy. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sam >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>> Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org >>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>>>