Bill Clark wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:51:32 +0200, Anthere
<anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes Bill, but... the whole issue is that it has to
be quickly available
for all projects ... ie, about 300 right now (okay, we could reduce this
to perhaps 80 active ones perhaps).
We could still go for the low-hanging fruit and stick an "About this
message" link on the most popular projects. That would eliminate a
lot of the questions and complaints people have, I'd think.
Yes, but this message would have to be hosted on meta, and have a "edit"
this page, so that users could add translations to it.
If we have to
create 80 pages for each language on each project, better
just give up now. One person can't do it alone. He cant create 80 pages
and cant create 80 translations alone in a couple of hours.
I know they're still not great, but has anyone looked at some of the
automated translation tools for some of this? If the message is
simple enough, the translations might not get TOO garbled. (Oh, who
am I kidding? They stink. Right?)
They stink :-)
The problem is that even if you use a translation tool, you still have
to go to each wiki in turn and post the translation. The translation,
then the edition takes a minimum of 5 minutes each.
The other point
of my proposal is precisely to make it possible that
information is available to all, without being necessarily displayed
very visibly.
Maybe something in the top part of the page, where the username and
such are displayed? An "announcements" link that changes color when
there are new notices?
Good idea. Of course, that means that only loggued in people would get
warned, but we could still have an annoucements page in the tool bar.
Or if it's something we want to make sure people
don't miss, we could
go the route of making a (shudder) "splash" page for the site, so that
the very first thing visitors see is the donation message.
No way :-)
I'm going to be very happy to do development...
once I familiarize
myself with the code base. Now, if I just spent more time actually
moving forward on that familiarization, rather than just talking about
it... (...then I think my paying clients would probably be upset with
me.)
This is very good news :-)
Still, this is
what machines, bots can do for us, replace humans for
works which take too much time.
We were talking earlier about a custom bot interface on the website,
but here's another thought: A separate, special "internal" bot
mechanism whereby scripts can run directly on the server, available
only for tasks that are *part* of the Wikipedia, rather than those
having to do with articles themselves. The python bot code could
probably be adapted for this purpose, and would provide a standard way
of making server-side maintenance scripts.
-Bill Clark
Hum, I am not sure I understand this well.
Let me try to explain what I imagine. Dunno if that is technically possible.
On meta (for example), there is a page called [[annoucements]].
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This page is built this way
*10 juillet 2004 : [[mediawiki:We got an award !]] ([[edit this comment]])
*8 juillet 2004 : [[mediawiki:German Wikipedia on TV]] ([[edit this
comment]])
*5 juillet 2004 : [[mediawiki:Servers will be down on the 14th of july]]
([[edit this comment]])
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on each wiki, for each user, an announcement link is available
somewhere. When the user click on it, he will read
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*10 juillet 2004 : Wikipedia received an award today, blablabla ([[edit
this comment]])
*8 juillet 2004 : The German Wikipedia was featured on TV yesterday
evening... Arne said... the hits during the show were amazing... ([[edit
this comment]])
*5 juillet 2004 : Holiday time : servers will be down on the 14th of
july ... ([[edit this comment]])
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The text displayed per default will be the one wrote on meta, but as
soon as someone click on [[edit this comment]], the translation will
replace the original text on the local site.
Each time the [[announcements]] page is modified on meta, users will be
notified on their wiki.
What it mostly needs is that the information on meta is automatically
loaded on each local project.
Possible ?