[Wikipedia-l] Policy draft: Wikimedia projects are not the place for national constitution

Tue Nov 14 18:16:20 UTC 2006

Hoi,
I can safely say that in the future it will be possible to indicate that 
something indicates "Moldovan Cyrillic". You seem to forget that there 
is an existing body of work in existence and this has to be tagged as 
much as any other orthography or dialect.
Thanks,
    GerardM

Milos Rancic wrote:
> Just to mention again: Rules don't cover the whole situation. Not for
> Moldovan, not for all other languages. The intention is to remove
> daily political talks out of WM projects.
>
> In other words: Please, solve your problems in real life, then come
> back to Wikipedia with clear opinion. It is not hard to suppose that
> Moldovan Cyrillic standard will not exist in the future. But, we are
> living now and now it is not yet solved problem. Romanian
> nation-building shouldn't be something which would be solved on
> Wikipedia or on other Wikimedian projects. Almost the same is with
> Serbian block of Montenegrin Wikipedia.
>
> However, is there any user? is it possible to make software solution?
> would the Wikipedia be called "Moldovan Cyrillic" or just "Moldovan"
> or "Soviet Moldovan" -- those are completely other questions and the
> page is not solving them. And this thread is not about it.
>
> On 11/14/06, Bogdan Giusca <liste at dapyx.com> wrote:
>   
>> Gerard,
>>
>> There is an ISO code because that standard was made by engineers and
>> it has no ethnologue code because that list of languages is made by
>> linguists.
>>
>> This Wikipedia was first edited by Node_ue in December 2004, who added
>> the first words in Cyrillic. In these two years, it produced zero
>> original articles, but it had 8000 edits and endless discussions on
>> en.wiki, meta and the mailing lists.
>>
>> I ask you: there is another Wikipedia with such a record?
>>
>> Tuesday, November 14, 2006, 2:18:06 AM, Gerard wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> For your information.
>>> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=mol shows quite clearly
>>> that under both ISO-639-1/2/3 there is a code for Moldavian. To
>>> complicate this
>>> http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=mol
>>> does nor agree with this sentiment. So nobody gets it right, not even
>>> the organisation that maintains ISO-639-3.
>>>       
>>> We have had our fill with this nonsense too often. Mark is correct where
>>> he says that the language is not the country. The Dutch language is just
>>> one example where the name does not imply that everyone who speaks Dutch
>>> as his or her mother tongue is Dutch. Bogdan your argument does not
>>> wash. When you mention trolling, I wonder when you looked last in a
>>> mirror. Anyway the best you can do is ignore. That may be kinda hard but
>>> consider, if this project stinks, anyone knowledgeable will be able to
>>> sniff it out personally. Then again, roses grow best on dung.