Your (well, at least, it sounds like what you would say) harassment of
me on my livejournal nonwithstanding (and you might wish to check it,
I have replied)...
You seem to have a very wrong concept of ownership of articles.
Neither you, nor the country of Romania, nor the group of all
Romanians as a whole, has any ownership over the Romanian Wikipedia or
any articles therein.
Would it be fair to say that all of the ro.wp articles that are
translated directly from English with no addition of facts are
similarly "stolen"?
No, it is Wikipedia, and we frequently copy from one another.
This is not "plagiarism".
I know of the Wikipedia licencing policy, but this
still is utterly
unethical: One person copying articles from one wikipedia to another
and then claiming they are different just because the script was
changed.
They *are* different -- do they look the same to you? No. Different
letters. They may or may not be in the same language ultimately,
depending on your POV, but they are definitely different. They are
stored with different byte articles.
And no copying occurred. It is called transliterating.
Actually, this is what infuriates me and makes me
fight here. This is
why I, a Romanian, am involved. The "Moldovan" identity is the problem
of the Moldovan people. I have already said that once a native Moldovan
speaker wants a Moldovan wikipedia, I'll help him create it.
You are infuriated because someone is using your articles? Well, I am
infuriated that you are using text I have written! Surely, somewhere
in ro.wp is a direct translation of some content I wrote in English.
Oh no!
But you are not Moldovan. You are not able to write
Moldovan.
You pretend helping some people that did not ask for your help.
No native Moldovan expressed an interest in your wikipedia.
I am Moldovan. It is your _opinion_ that I am "not able to write
Moldovan", especially given that you attach no adverb. "Native
Moldovans" (assuming you mean Moldovans living in Moldova) have
expressed an interest, although in very limited numbers.
In fact, all people from Moldova, here on Wikipedia,
say they
speak Romanian. You have Oleg Alexandrov, which used to help you,
but then dropped you when he saw you profess extreme oppinions.
He never "dropped me".
You have Dmitriid, which marks ro-2 in his Babel box,
not mo-2, and
would agree for an automatic translation tool from Romanian, a tool
that exists (as he said two days ago).
And I said that I agree to it to, as long as this tool will be
implemented on ro.wiki just as it is on sr.wiki and zh.wiki, and as
long as IMPROVEMENTS ARE ACCEPTED, which Bogdan did not allow so far
-- I gave a list of improvements, and he ignored them entirely.
Spelling still sucks.
And these are the ones that you claim to have (or have
had)
on your side. Because there are Moldovans, like Pavel, that are
utterly mad at you for supporting Stalinist points of view.
Psh. They're certainly not the only ones.
BUT: RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO COMMUNITY, no interest in
your work, aside from the interest of your opponents (the people you
plagiarize), and that of some innocent bystanders on this list and
elsewhere, that are forced into listening all this because you won't
accept that you serve nobody's interest.
Oh, please. There is too a community. You are infuriated for no good
reason. Take a step back, and take a good look at the situation. You
have worked yourself up into a tizzy over nothing. I'm not sure why
this is worth the effort to you -- there's a good chance you will lose
the fight, and anyhow, no matter what, you are being destructive.
Mark
--
Refije dirije lanmè yo paske nou posede pwòp bato.