[Wikipedia-l] "censorship" On Wikipedia

Sat Jan 29 18:06:30 UTC 2005

Without Prejudice

I attempted to post info on Wikipedia on the HIV=AIDS controversy - at 
first my post was censored - then totally remove!

What I posted was info from  Dr. Kary Mullis, a biochemist who was 
awarded the Nobel Prize For Chemistry - he invented the polymerase 
chain reaction (PCR), a central technique in molecular biology which 
allows the amplification of specified DNA sequences. I wonder how many 
inventions or Nobel Prizes the Wilkipedia censor(s) have?

Dr. Kary Mullis states that there is not one scientific study published 
in a scholarly journal with peer review the shows that "HIV is the 
probable cause of AIDS" (notice PROBABLE). In Mullis book 'Dancing 
Naked In The Mind Field" - Mullis states:

"I was going to a lot of meetings and conferences as part of my job. I 
got in the habit of approaching anyone who gave a talk about AIDS and 
asking him or her what reference I should quote for that increasingly 
problematic statement, "HIV is the probable cause of AIDS."
After ten or fifteen meetings over a couple of years, I was getting 
pretty upset when no one could site the reference. I didn't like the 
ugly conclusion that was forming in my mind: The entire campaign 
against a disease increasingly regarded as a twentieth- century Black 
Plague was based on a hypothesis whose origins no one could recall. 
That defied both scientific and common sense.

"Finally I had an opportunity to question one of the giants in HIV and 
AIDS research, Dr. Luc Montagnier of the Pasteur Institute, when he 
gave a talk in San Diego. It would be the last time I would be able to 
ask my little question without showing anger, and I figured Montagnier 
would know the answer. So I asked him.
With a look of condescending puzzlement, Montagnier said, "Why don't 
you quote the report from the Centers for Disease Control?"
I replied, "It doesn't really address the issue of whether or not HIV 
is the probable cause of AIDS does it?"
"No," he admitted, no doubt wondering when I would just go away. He 
looked for support to the little circle of people around him, but they 
were all awaiting a  more definitive response, like I was.
"Why don't you quote the work on SIV [Simian Immunodeficiency Virus]?" 
the good doctor offered.
"I read that too, Dr. Montagnier," I responded. "What happened to those 
monkeys didn't remind me of AIDS. Besides, that paper was just 
published only a couple of months ago. I'm looking for the original 
paper where somebody showed that HIV caused AIDS."
This time, Dr. Montagnier's response was to walk quickly away to greet 
an acquaintance across the room. "

First of all, can your censors give me a reference to one (just one) 
scientific study published in a scholarly journal with peer review the 
shows that "HIV is the probable cause of AIDS"? If they can't, then all 
of the dis-information on HIV=AIDS needs to removed from Wikipedia.

At the same time - your censors stated that Mullis's views on HIV+AIDS, 
is in the minority (that most scientists believe that HIV is the 
probable cause of AIDS) - again can I see the statistical reference - 
that is, a scientific study published in a scholarly journal with peer 
review  to that claim?

I am interesting in sponsoring a live audio debate (in aacPlus codec) 
on the WWW - with Dr. Kary Mullis and anyone one of Wikipedia  
"censors" or so-called "experts" on HIV=AIDS, I am sure that we would 
have thousands of listeners (from readers of Wikipedia and other news 
sources) - what date and time would "you" prefer for this debate so 
that I can finalize arrangements with Dr. Mullis.

- Harry Pasternak