[Wikipedia-l] Re: Quenya language request, and Chinese Wikipedia again

Sun Feb 20 09:25:36 UTC 2005

No, we have shown you examples of schools and newspapers, of books and
musics, and every single one you just label as an exception.

Even if the whole world wrote in colloquial Cantonese, I'm shore you
will call them all exceptions.

Mark

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:18:29 +0800, Sheng Jiong <sheng.jiong at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would appreciate it if you can argue using facts and not simply call
> > other people's proposals trash. It's highly disrespectful.
> 
> I have been called talking "crap". I would appreciate if you can argue
> using facts and not simply call other people's opinions "crap" too.
> 
> > The HK government has a page explaining and giving links to a code that
> > has all the Cantonese/Hong Kong-specific characters that the standard
> > Big5 code might not have. I don't know what is formalising if this isn't.
> >
> > Here, you can see for yourself:
> > http://www.info.gov.hk/digital21/chi/structure/cli_main.html
> 
> > All languages can be written down in one way or another, if the language
> > speakers want to.
> 
> Maybe you can. But has majority of the Hong Kongers start writing
> Cantonese down?
> 
> > And there's no evidence that most Cantonese speakers would object such a
> >   proposal. The three Cantonese speakers who had said anything here are
> > Felix, Cathy, and I. I doubt we three are the only Cantonese speakers on
> > this list or on zh.wikipedia.org.
> 
> Well, that I should ask you people. I find myself engaged in a flame
> war with three persons whose total number of contributions to
> Wikipedia are less than that of mine alone.
> 
> And remind you, if you have not already known, one of Chinese
> Wikipedia's founding member, [[User:Lorenzarius]], was from Hong Kong.
> And he was one of the main opposer of splitting Chinese Wikipedia into
> Simplified and Traditional version before there was a conversion
> script. And [[User:Tomchiukc]] is still an active Hong Kong
> Wikipedian.
> 
> Chinese Wikipedian community is relatively small(if you count active
> contributors, I think there are less than 100), and to have 2 very
> active users from Hong Kong is already an achievement, considering the
> percentage of Chinese users in Hong Kong in comparison with mainland
> China.
> 
> > I'm now beginning to think that showing you the evidence when we find it
> > is pointless, since you seem to be holding onto your stance based on
> > emotions rather than facts. Any time Felix or I try (tries?) to show you
> > something, your reply is the same: oh, that doesn't count, that's just
> > an exception.
> 
> Because you are showing me exceptions. I am sure your being able to
> sit here and write means you should be able to understand what is
> "widely accepted".
> 
> formulax
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