[Wikipedia-l] Wikicite project pages (english versions only so far)

Wed Feb 9 22:40:05 UTC 2005

I think a very important issue here is whether to add cites to
articles that we don't know what sources were used.

If I wrote the entire text of [[Japanese language]] (which I didn't,
this is just an example), without a cite, it would be a very horrible
thing in my mind if somebody added a cite for a book I'd never even
heard of. It's simply not accurate, and in some cases the book may not
even be a good resource.

Whenever somebody adds a random cite to an article written mostly or
entirely by me, I remove it unless I actually DID use that source.
It's very irritating to have people doing that, almost like bees, who
while they make honey also tend to annoy people.

Mark

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:15:16 -0500, Stirling Newberry
<stirling.newberry at xigenics.net> wrote:
> 
> On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
> 
> > Sj wrote (about Wikicite):
> >> I was wary of this idea at first, but after talking to Stirling about
> >> it last week, I am very enthusiastic.  Two librarians I have talked to
> >> in Boston seem to think it's a good idea, also.
> >
> > As in "if you cook, we will eat", or the other way around?
> >
> > Stirling Newbury wrote:
> >>> together in a live manner, which allows for the creation of
> >>> bibliographic apparatus. The Library of Congress is working on such a
> >>> project for its purposes, it is the purpose of this project to create
> >>> an open wiki system which will allow:
> >
> > Who are these people at LoC?  Does their project have a name?
> >
> 
> Bibliographic enhancement, there is a link on the page.
> 
> >
> 
> > I think the best way is to digitize every book and give each page a
> > URL, like this, http://runeberg.org/pictswed/0219.html
> >
> 
> Where the material is in Wikisource this is great, but you still need
> the card for context and references.
> 
> 
> > We already know how to handle URLs, and it's only a matter of time
> > until we have scanned every book and newspaper there is.  I would
> > guess the task will be completed within the next 50 years.  Most of us
> > will be around to see it.
> >
> > So, I have a proposed solution and a time table.  What's your time
> > table?
> >
> 
> Links to sources don't create citation indexes, they don't make citing
> easier and they don't allow us to annotate sources - it also assumes
> that a great deal of material will be released into the public domain
> that is not currently. I feel that we can have a first pass wikicite
> ready to be used in wikipedia and wikitionary articles within a year
> based on ISBN numbers for books and ISSN numbers for journals.
> 
> 
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