Re: [Wikipedia-l] Võro Vikipeediä

Thu Feb 3 08:50:48 UTC 2005

It seems that "vor" in the next release of ISO 639 doesn't stand for the Võro language in Estonia. There is a Voro language 
somewhere in Nigeria using SIL code "VOR", see http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=VOR. Probably "vor" is meant for 
this African language. We can not use the same code for Võro in Estonia.

I planned to ask the codes "vro" and "vr" for Võro (my mother tongue spoken in Estonia) from ISO and Ethnologue. I have no 
information that somebody else had asked codes for Võro.

So it would be great if we could use "vro" or "vr". But if it is impossible so why not to use "fiu-voro" or "fiu-vr" or "fiu-
vro" as a temporary code. But is it hard to change it later into "vro" or "vr"?

Regards
Sulev

3.02.2005 7:51:04, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> kirot':

>Mark Williamson wrote:
>
>>Yes, but it has not been released yet, and according to Brion we won't
>>use it until it is.
>>
>>So, unless they want to wait until some time in 2006 for their own
>>Wikipedia, we'll have to make do with a non-3-letter code.
>>
>>Mark
>>  
>>
>The to be released ISO 639 codes will be used in a proper manner; codes 
>published will only be used for the proposed use and when this use is 
>withdrawn the codes will not be re-used. I am interested to know WHY we 
>would not use these codes.
>
>Gerard
>
>>On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:22:09 +0100, Gerard Meijssen
>><gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>Mark Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>>>I propose that we use something like fiu-voro as the language code
>>>>(there is no ethnolgue code for Voro because it lists it as a dialect
>>>>of Estonian).
>>>>
>>>>The issue of a code nonwithstanding, I think it should be set up right away.
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:11:58 +0000, Angela <beesley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>
>>>>>Forwarding from foundation-l to wikipedia-l since there was no
>>>>>reaction on that list....
>>>>>
>>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>From: Sulev Iva <juvasul at ut.ee>
>>>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:43:52 +0200
>>>>>Subject: [Foundation-l] Võro Vikipeediä
>>>>>To: foundation-l at wikimedia.org
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear members of the foundaton,
>>>>>I'm a user of Estonian (Võrok) and English Wikipedia (Võrolang) and a
>>>>>native speaker,
>>>>>researcher and activist of the Võro language spoken in Estonia. Võro
>>>>>(native name Võro
>>>>>or Võro kiil´) belongs to the Finnic branch of the Finno-Ugric
>>>>>languages. It has about
>>>>>70.000 speakers mostly in southern Estonia.
>>>>>Language codes (not yet official) are Vro and Vr. See more about Võro in
>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Võro and http://www.wi.ee/.
>>>>>
>>>>>I and my friends would like to begin with Võro language Wikipedia. We
>>>>>can translate
>>>>>Estonian language file to Võro (actually we have already started) and begin with
>>>>>creation of new articles. Of course your objection may be that there are too few
>>>>>speakers of Võro. Yes, but the speakers are quite active and
>>>>>computerized people and
>>>>>the Võro language community needs an encyclopedia in their own
>>>>>language. I'm sure the
>>>>>number of potential editors in Võro is not smaller than the Kashoub,
>>>>>Cornish, Gaelic,
>>>>>Faroese or Saami's or many other small languages' one. I have
>>>>>discussed the idea of
>>>>>Võro Wikipedia with Estonian Wikipedia developers: Andres, Ker, Klaus etc.
>>>>>(http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikipeedia:Community_Portal#V.C3.B5rukeelne_Wikipedia).
>>>>>They are supporting the idea and will help us. I hope you will support us too.
>>>>>Best regards, Võrolang -- 80.235.61.143 11:33, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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>>>>      
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>>>There is a code for Voro in the upcoming version of ISO-639 it will be vor.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>    GerardM
>>>
>>>    
>>>
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