[Wikipedia-l] New wikipedia proposal

Sat Oct 2 14:22:07 UTC 2004

User:Oui tried to start a new wiki on meta.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Lr:&oldid=66726

I offered him to join this list to discuss this.

Here is a copy of his explanation

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Hello

I do not think this belongs to meta my friend.

Explain to me what you want to do on my talk page please (français or 
english)

Anthere 13:12, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hi

As you see, I dont understand the only page I know explaining "How to 
create a new linguage" because it is in a not-easy-English and I never 
did learn English (I can write a lot in "my" own English but in case 
that I read, I am of course dependant of that what I find!) and would 
need help for that. To wait as long I find one good man, how can help me 
to do that for 2 languages (frater and solresol) I work to prepare as 
much pages I will re-link after the languages exist in the official 
form! For me it is important to dispose of this "working surface" in 
"solresol" (oo:) and frater (lr:) because I help a lot friends in the 
language "interlingue" (ie:) (interlingue is not my own "special matter" 
but I can help) and can economisate a lot of energy if I do all 
completely synchron in the 3 languages because I have to control a lot 
in a lot of dictionaries and it is the same work for only one as for the 
3 languages.

The 3 languages solresol (now re-renamed Langue musicale universelle as 
did do it the inventor sudre in 1827 - the name of solresol is from 
gajewski in 1902), interlingue and frater are very special:

solresol is the only one of more than 8000 languages with an integraded 
interface for handicapped people. solresol can be learnd in an hour (the 
mecanic of the language of course. but in our time it is easy to enter 
the word at the keyboard of a computer and the computer search the right 
word. i use such a programm... and in the other direction, it is the 
same: I copy my text with CTRL C and with CTRL V i can get the words 
transleted into an other language!)

interlingue is the only one language that all speakers of English, 
French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Roman, Dutch, Dansk, 
Swedish, Norwayish (?) can read with more or less difficulties of 
course, BUT completely without to need to learn it! And it is 
important... But they need a dictionary (for this reason, my work in 
Wikipedia will be mainly in Wiktionary but I have also problems in 
Wiktionary: I dont understand the way to active the Templates in the new 
language! Look please at Interlingue, the first and only one word with 
the meaning of "dictionary"!)!

Frater is a) one of the extremly rare artificial languages invented 
outside of the occidental world. It was invented and publish in Saigon, 
Vietnam, in 1950 and not in French (French people was yet engaged in 
Vietnam) but in English! b) frater is one the the rare language with a 
reduced alphabet and for this reason special adapted for people with a 
little or no education. It is also easier for handicaped people. c) 
really surprising is that the asiatic autor did prefer a completely 
occidental word choice because of the internationality! but he did take 
especialy care to make a convenient language for asiatic people!

you know all now!

can you perhaps help me or recommand to me a man how has experience in 
creating new languages in wik and in using of templates?

i thank you for your help an wish you a good weekend --Oui 14:03, 2 Oct 
2004 (UTC)

Hmmm.

For the template issue, I recommand you ask Brion Vibber or user:Tim 
Starling. They should be able to help you.

For the new languages, I must say that creating synthetic languages 
wikis is somewhat controversial. I think this should result from 
community discussion and approval. I invite you to join one of our 
mailing list to discuss this : 
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l.

Meanwhile, I post your comment there :-)

Cheers. Anthere 14:18, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)