[Wikipedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Klingon resurrected

Tue Jun 8 00:55:26 UTC 2004

It seems to me that EM's concerns are valid, wether or
not people choose to deal with or recognise them. That
is, that there should be a reasonable firewall between
encyclopedic projects and others.  A "vanity project"
instigator myself, I can understand how people can
hold a reasonable objection to the idea that Wikimedia
be a haven for any number of conlang projects,
disguised as encyclopedias. The word is out, and most
certainly there will be more requests.  

Since both the hapless Esperanto and the hopeless
Interlingua already have an established place, there
is little viable argument against conlangs in general.
 The only reasonable option is to limit them to the
very few that promise some utility.

CS
User:KuniShiro on symbolwiki.org / Various ip ranges
on Wikien.

--- Timwi <timwi at gmx.net> wrote:
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> 
> > Timwi-
> > 
> >>Thanks for your support. Many many people, in fact
> a clear majority,
> >>support full rights for the Klingon Wikipedia.
> Unfortunately, it seems
> >>that this has no significance here. Klingon is
> being treated like
> >>cripple-crap simply because a very small, but very
> loud minority has
> >>some sort of quabbles with it. And because one of
> them has been given
> >>(and is apparently allowed to retain) the power to
> have everything their
> >>way, and then intimidate everyone who tries to
> undo it.
> > 
> > Interesting. Is this the way you respect a
> compromise which you yourself  
> > proposed?
> 
> I failed to make it clear enough that I expected the
> limitations imposed 
> on tlh to also apply to tokipona. Now everyone
> things I wanted the 
> Klingon Wikipedia, when in fact I only wanted equal
> rights.
> 
> And the only reason why we still don't have equal
> rights is because 
> people like you insisted on opposing tlh, because
> you said conceited and 
> respectless things like "If anyone puts it back up,
> I'll go in there and 
> suspend it myself!", and because the prejudice
> against the more 
> widely-condemned Klingon is being adhered to more
> than the much more 
> reasonable opposition against the less widely-known
> Toki Pona.
> 
> Timwi
> 
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