[Wikipedia-l] Re: Wikipedia-l Images cp status (Arnaud)

Tue Oct 14 11:51:02 UTC 2003

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Money, money... (let's bribe them) (Daniel
> Mayer)
>    2. images from one wikipedia to another (Re:
> Money,	money)
>       (Karl Eichwalder)
>    3. Re: images from one wikipedia to another (Re:
> Money,	money)
>       (Sascha Noyes)
>    4. Re: images from one wikipedia to another (Re:
> Money,	money)
>       (Arnaud G)
>    5. Money, money... (let's bribe (Anthere)
>    6. Money, money... (let's bribe (Anthere)
>    7. Re: images from one wikipedia to another (Re:
> Money,	money)
>       (Stan Shebs)
>    8. Re: images from one wikipedia to another (Re:
> Money,	money)
>       (Sascha Noyes)
>    9. Re: Money, money... (let's bribe (Jens Frank)
>   10. Re: Money, money... (let's bribe (Brion
> Vibber)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:22:50 -0700
> From: Daniel Mayer <maveric149 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Money, money... (let's bribe
> them)
> To: wikipedia-l at Wikipedia.org
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> Erik Zachte wrote:
> >A fool like me might come to his senses and think 
> >twice before contributing for free what can be
> bought 
> >on the market.
> 
> This is highly flawed thinking given the large
> number of free software coders 
> that are paid by their employers to create free
> software. US government 
> employees do this a lot as well. 
> 
> Does that make pure volunteers fools? Hardly. 
> 
> -- mav
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 20:12:41 +0200
> From: Karl Eichwalder <ke at gnu.franken.de>
> Subject: [Wikipedia-l] images from one wikipedia to
> another (Re:
> 	Money,	money)
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> Anthere <anthere6 at yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > and those copying images from one wikipedia to
> another
> > ?
> 
> This is a problem to be attacked ASAP.  We need one
> image server for
> all wikipedias--simply because images are language
> independend.
> 
> It would also be good, to store the "facts"
> (numbers, numbers,...)
> somewhere independently from where it could be
> possible to feed the
> data sections of certain articles.
> 
> > Drawing logos ?
> 
> No new logo within the next five years, please ;)
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:36:10 -0400
> From: Sascha Noyes <sascha at pantropy.net>
> Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] images from one wikipedia
> to another (Re:
> 	Money,	money)
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> On Monday 13 October 2003 02:12 pm, Karl Eichwalder
> wrote:
> 
> > This is a problem to be attacked ASAP.  We need
> one image server for
> > all wikipedias--simply because images are language
> independend.
> 
> This is necessary for another reason: copyright
> validation. Often images are 
> uploaded with the description that they are from a
> foreign language 
> wikipedia. That means that someone hunting for
> possible copyvio has to go to 
> that other language wikipedia to verify the source.
> Needless to say I didn't 
> succeed in reading the details on an image in the
> korean wikipedia, and the 
> user copying it over has yet to respond to my
> request.
> 
> Best,
> Sascha Noyes
> (in wikiland: snoyes)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:53:54 +0200
> From: Arnaud G <wikipedia at amarys.com>

Moreover can you tell us why the description
> of the image should 
> contain the copyright notice in english? If we have
> the same image for 
> multiple wiki, this image should contain the
> copyright statement in all 
> the language as you cannot expect everyone to
> understand english, and 
> then the description will be not very readable.
> People should take care 
> when they import an image from another wikipedia to
> translate the 
> copyright statement and not only say: this image is
> ok it comes from kw: !

I never saw anything stating that.

Arnaud, I invite you to read all brand new image
policy on french wikipedia

Basic rules on image upload
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia%3AImage

Description file recommandations to respect
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia%3ADescription_d%27une_image

Recommandations to respect in case of fair use image
uploading
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia%3AFair_use

Model to put on users page who do not follow
recommandations
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia%3AMessage_de_description_des_images

Some models of description for fair use images
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%E9dia%3AMod%E8le_fair_use

Nowhere is it written the description of copyright
status had to be in english. French only is enough
(but of course, it might be beneficial to put some
description in english for other wikipedias uses)

Amicalement

Anthere

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