AW: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Logo results as tallied pairwise (Condorcet)

Wed Oct 1 10:33:08 UTC 2003

Erik,

it's not that easy. There was a template for the vote, I used it (replacing
"[[User:Foo]]" with "~~~" or "~~~~", because that's the way we do it in
Wikipedia, don't we), and I didn't check if everything was okay (because
I didn't had time and because I thought that the given template will work).
The template didn't (or my interpretation of the template didn't). That's
not a question of strict rules, but of not working ballot machines, and
especially one of equality of the vote, if some votes were counted and some
not. This is in my perspective a major problem, even if the result won't
be changed by counting the three or whatever disabled votes. One just can't
say "let's have a vote" and the arbitrarily say which vote counts and which
doesn't count. So the whole voting process is tainted, I'd say.

Regards, Till

>-- Original Nachricht --
>Date: 30 Sep 2003 23:26:00 +0200
>From: erik_moeller at gmx.de (Erik Moeller)
>To: wikipedia-l at wikipedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Logo results as tallied pairwise (Condorcet)
>Cc: 
>Reply-To: wikipedia-l at Wikipedia.org
>
>
>Richard-
>> On 30 Sep 2003 21:23:00 +0200, Till Westermayer <till at tillwe.de> gave
>> utterance to the following:
>
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . till we *) . .
.
>>>
>>> Hi Andre,
>>>
>>> thanks for pointing that out. If this is really the case, I also propose
>>> a recount (how should one now that ~~~~ between == don't work?!). (IIRC,
>>> I came back from holiday just before the voting period ended and didn't
>>> check if my vote was counted)
>>>
>> Well that's three users who were qualified to vote who missed out for
>> technical reasons. I signed the same way, but the page never reloaded
full
>> (the server was down for the next hour or two, and by the time I managed
>> to get back to W the next day, voting was done and dusted.
>
>==~~~~== does work, but there are apparently certain browser/OS  
>combinations which had problems with the Unicode representation on Meta

>
>and copy and pasted it in a way that doesn't work. To avoid this from 

>occurring repeatedly I changed the template at some point to just say 

>==[[User:Foo]]==. In any case, most invalid ballots have been marked as

>
>invalid long before the vote ended, and all invalid ones are listed on

>[[International logo vote/Invalid ballots]]. The rules for what type of

>
>ballot is acceptable and what type is not have been made very clear  
>repeatedly, and, to my knowledge, nobody has voted for Pat Buchanan.
>
>Note that some people refused to accept the first round of voting because
> 
>the rules were too lax and cheating was too easy. If some people refuse
to
> 
>accept the second round of voting because the rules are too strict and

>cheating is too difficult, then I think these complaints can be fairly

>considered to negate each other.
>
>Regards,
>
>Erik
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