At 04:44 23/09/02 -0500, Tesla Coil wrote:
In no case is it [[Edward Stanley, 14th Earl of
Derby]] and
[[Edward Stanley, 15th Earl of Derby]]. "English-speakers do
not put family names as part of the title."
...which is quite clearly untrue, at least when referring
in formal terms to historical figures. The Dictionary of
National Biography, for example, lists peers by their family
name, as in: CAVENDISH, Spencer Compton, Marquis of Hartington
and 8th Duke of Devonshire.
I think Tesla was referring to that specific standard form of quoting a
title, where I believe he's correct - you would indeed *not* cite the
surname in that particular formulation.
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adamw